8 hours ago
❮
❯
|
8 hours ago
(9 hours ago)Orby Wrote: Well Don Donald and Peter, you put the persians back 20 years militray plus they are gonna struggle to come up with a nuke. So far the Mullahs have killed in demonstrations or following executions 50 thousand of their own peopl!!!!!!!!!!!!!! They would not be the regional power if not for the unfettered support of the US Government and MIC.
8 hours ago
(8 hours ago)Sarnaxx Wrote: You conveniently left out Iran is getting $12-24 billion dollars... for a less stringent version of the JCPOA. The Obama administration only gave them about $1.7 billion in a legal settlement. Guess Trump's version of peace in our time is expensive... I suppose we will find out more come Friday.
"Yet so it is, we see the illiterate bulk of mankind that walk the high-road of plain common sense, and are governed by the dictates of nature, for the most part easy and undisturbed. To them nothing that is familiar appears unaccountable or difficult to comprehend."
8 hours ago
(8 hours ago)Sarnaxx Wrote: They would not be the regional power if not for the unfettered support of the US Government and MIC. I don't know about that. You probably are correct up to maybe a decade ago, yet the IDF are procurring masses of armanents from the domestic scene, indeed they have plans to go almost totally domestic in the future. One thing they learnt over the past 2,000 years is you can't rely on other peoples for ones defence, it has to come from within. The fact that the Israeli's have planted half of their people in the USA with the all the financial and business pressures on the US governments probably does secure them for now. I have no idea if this will continue, yet with modern warfare the age of massive manpower and countless tank forces is kind of over. It's all about technology and being a generation or two ahead of your rivals, for now they are in that position. I've often wondered if the Israeli's can do a transplant into China or India, if say the Israeli experiment fails. Those nations are probably the future. Israel managed to secure itself into central Europe, then the USSR and from their influence and power. Now it's in the Eastern Meditterannean and the north of America. Who knows? Maybe they can move on and do it again? If survival is challenged once again, nothing will surprise me. For now, Israel is the dominant player in the region. Nothing technology wise can match them, especially in the air. They have total control of the skies from Greece to Pakistan. I don't see that changing. If anything expect the gap to widen.
“If we believe a thing to be bad, and if we have a right to prevent it, it is our duty to try to prevent it and damn the consequences.”
6 hours ago
Not much detail on this "deal" but seems to be less favourable than the Obama deal but more costly?
'l'll just check my Giveashitometer....Nope. Nothing...
6 hours ago
(6 hours ago)Oldcarpy2 Wrote: Not much detail on this "deal" but seems to be less favourable than the Obama deal but more costly? Certainly seems that way from reports so far. Could be that they know the deal is bad and are leaking exaggerated figures to make the actual agreement seem good in comparison. Israel are claiming the agreement doesn't apply to them and Iran are still vowing revenge for recent strikes in Lebanon so the next few days will be pivotal to if the agreement holds.
5 hours ago
(6 hours ago)Oldcarpy2 Wrote: Not much detail on this "deal" but seems to be less favourable than the Obama deal but more costly? We could have just keep rolling that deal. Reports are we were close to a similar, and possibly better deal before Israel started their strikes last round. If the deal is truly bad, I imagine the talking points will be how successful Trump was at opening the strait that was already open before the war. We were told this would be two weeks tops and get regime change for Iran. Instead we got some people killed, including Americans for a deal that (right now based on reports) looks worse than the deal we ripped up. He should have just focused on fixing the economy and he’d have been considered a good president.
5 hours ago
Regime change? No.
Strait that was open before the War now open? Maybe. Help on way to protesters? No. Enriched Uranium? Still talking. Massive cost to the US? Yes. A great deal? No. A shite one.
'l'll just check my Giveashitometer....Nope. Nothing...
4 hours ago
If the bombs don't get the Iranian's, the inflation rates will.................. 72% today
“If we believe a thing to be bad, and if we have a right to prevent it, it is our duty to try to prevent it and damn the consequences.”
3 hours ago
(4 hours ago)Orby Wrote: If the bombs don't get the Iranian's, the inflation rates will.................. 72% today Considering that inflation has a far more significant impact on the people of said country that the government itself, I think it is safe to assume that you want the people of Iran to suffer. Why? |
|
« Next Oldest | Next Newest »
|
| Possibly Related Threads… | |||||
| Thread | Author | Replies | Views | Last Post | |
| Iran is the Graveyard of American Hegemony | LightAngel | 67 | 3,496 |
05-19-2026, 09:45 PM Last Post: andy06shake |
|
| Jeffrey Sachs warns US militarism risks wider war over Iran | LightAngel | 3 | 569 |
03-10-2026, 08:40 PM Last Post: Hypntick |
|
| Iran fired 2 missiles at Greek Cyprus, hosting British troops | Waterglass | 26 | 1,415 |
03-04-2026, 09:31 AM Last Post: putnam6 |
|
| Iran’s new missile tactics throw US, Israeli war planning into disarray | Waterglass | 17 | 932 |
03-02-2026, 12:58 PM Last Post: Harte |
|
| Trump Announces Alaska Summit with Putin | Imhere | 763 | 34,323 |
08-19-2025, 08:56 PM Last Post: Encia22 |
|
| A powerful explosion at an Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps base in Iran | putnam6 | 1 | 358 |
08-11-2025, 07:56 PM Last Post: andy06shake |
|
| Trump has moved two nuclear submarines towards Russia | Kurokage | 51 | 3,288 |
08-11-2025, 07:03 AM Last Post: SomeStupidName |
|
| How the Iran trap works | annonentity | 15 | 1,733 |
07-03-2025, 01:12 AM Last Post: annonentity |
|








