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(06-12-2026, 01:35 PM)andy06shake Wrote: Considering he was found liable for sexual abuse...
I don't think Trump understands "no, means no."
I hope you are wearing asbestos underpants....
'l'll just check my Giveashitometer....Nope. Nothing...
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(06-12-2026, 01:32 PM)Oldcarpy2 Wrote: I guess we'll see.
So far:
Trump: "We're close to signing a deal. A beautiful deal, like no one has seen before".
iran: "No we are not".
Can anyone explain how you are to negotiate with anyone that is convinced you are the devil? That is the official stance of the leadership of Iran for 47 years now.
Their leadership has not changed enough for negotiations yet.
I know too much and question everything.
Does anyone know the minimum safe distance of ignorance?
Did anyone ask the monkeys how much fun the barrel actually was?
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(06-12-2026, 01:38 PM)Oldcarpy2 Wrote: I hope you are wearing asbestos underpants.... 
Possibly.
But as you well know.
Facts are facts, Carpy.
The man was found to be liable for sexual abuse and defamation.
By a jury of 9 people, and it was a unanimous verdict.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/world-us...a-65502076
https://apnews.com/article/trump-rape-ca...f9ec83d7db
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/E._Jean_Ca...d_J._Trump
"Yet so it is, we see the illiterate bulk of mankind that walk the high-road of plain common sense, and are governed by the dictates of nature, for the most part easy and undisturbed. To them nothing that is familiar appears unaccountable or difficult to comprehend."
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(06-12-2026, 01:44 PM)andy06shake Wrote: Possibly.
But as you well know.
Facts are facts, Carpy.
The man was found to be liable for sexual abuse and defamation.
By a jury of 9 people, and it was a unanimous verdict.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/world-us...a-65502076
https://apnews.com/article/trump-rape-ca...f9ec83d7db
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/E._Jean_Ca...d_J._Trump
I know. Just a bit of banter....
'l'll just check my Giveashitometer....Nope. Nothing...
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(06-12-2026, 01:41 PM)BeyondKnowledge Wrote: Can anyone explain how you are to negotiate with anyone that is convinced you are the devil? That is the official stance of the leadership of Iran for 47 years now.
Their leadership has not changed enough for negotiations yet.
Playing Devil's advocate, how are you to negotiate with someone who claims to have been saved by an act of God and compares himself to Jesus?
'l'll just check my Giveashitometer....Nope. Nothing...
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(06-12-2026, 01:47 PM)Oldcarpy2 Wrote: I know. Just a bit of banter....
I know mate.
But put it this way, it's not the type of "decent human being" I would trust with the nuclear codes.
Or to ultimately sign off on any deals.
Trump has already come forward and said Bibi will have to honour any peace deal he makes.
And that, quite frankly, sounds like a crock of horse shit to me...
Given that the Israelis will do as they see fit.
Can you imagine being a fly on the wall where Trump's private stock portfolio is on the table?
"Yet so it is, we see the illiterate bulk of mankind that walk the high-road of plain common sense, and are governed by the dictates of nature, for the most part easy and undisturbed. To them nothing that is familiar appears unaccountable or difficult to comprehend."
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(06-12-2026, 01:51 PM)Oldcarpy2 Wrote: Playing Devil's advocate, how are you to negotiate with someone who claims to have been saved by an act of God and compares himself to Jesus? 
Much like the Beatles when they mentioned Jesus, he is kind of full of himself and taken out of context at the same time.
He is a business man and not a government type. He sometimes sticks both feet in his mouth but he is not shaking hands with invisible people. Yet.
I know too much and question everything.
Does anyone know the minimum safe distance of ignorance?
Did anyone ask the monkeys how much fun the barrel actually was?
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(06-12-2026, 01:44 PM)andy06shake Wrote: Possibly.
But as you well know.
Facts are facts, Carpy.
The man was found to be liable for sexual abuse and defamation.
By a jury of 9 people, and it was a unanimous verdict.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/world-us...a-65502076
https://apnews.com/article/trump-rape-ca...f9ec83d7db
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/E._Jean_Ca...d_J._Trump
Accused by a woman who couldn't remember the date, year or even the season when it supposedly happened.
Whose accusations were identical to a Law & Order SVU episode right down to the Bergdorf Goodman department store that it supposedly happened in.
No witnesses, no police report....no nothing.....oh except it only came out when it was clear that Joe Biden and the Dems had no chance of stopping Trump.
Annnnd it was pretty much after all the other Dem manufactured accusations clearly were not going to stop him as well...
The Mar a Lago fake classified papers case, the fake Leticia James bank fraud case, the fake Fanny Willis Georgia vote case.
They didn't stop him.
But the real kick in the nuts for them is, if they didn't scam the country with the 2020 election fraud perpetrated using Covid, Trump would already be done with his 2nd term and basically be out of the picture.
It takes a very simple person to believe all that shit happened because the Democrats told you it happened.
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(06-12-2026, 02:11 PM)BeyondKnowledge Wrote: Much like the Beatles when they mentioned Jesus, he is kind of full of himself and taken out of context at the same time.
He is a business man and not a government type. He sometimes sticks both feet in his mouth but he is not shaking hands with invisible people. Yet.
**like**
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(06-12-2026, 01:41 PM)BeyondKnowledge Wrote: Can anyone explain how you are to negotiate with anyone that is convinced you are the devil? That is the official stance of the leadership of Iran for 47 years now.
Their leadership has not changed enough for negotiations yet.
I mean, fair play, since the Islamic Revolution they have regularly used phrases like "The Great Satan."
But the Iranians have already negotiated with the US.
What about the 2015 JCPOA nuclear deal?
"Yet so it is, we see the illiterate bulk of mankind that walk the high-road of plain common sense, and are governed by the dictates of nature, for the most part easy and undisturbed. To them nothing that is familiar appears unaccountable or difficult to comprehend."
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