Trump says he bombed Iran

[Oldcarpy2]

I can see why many of our allies are pissed.

My government has acted like Middle Eastern allies are better than our older ones. Mind you the middle eastern ones don’t import as much, participate in our wars, are almost all dictatorships, etc.

I can’t believe I even saw a member in this thread just a few days ago say they’re better allies than Europeans. They didn’t care to respond with a single metric on how that could be true… but it just shows some people don’t use data to form opinions.

Especially because the 9/11 perps were Saudis...

But hey, have futile and costly War in Afghanistan instead.

[andy06shake]

Screw the old allies, all Trump needed was a united public NATO FRONT, which would have been better than the very public NATO subjection to thier immigrant populations.

Denying the use of air bases....FTN NATO


Japan, South Korea, Israel, the Saudis, and the UAE are better peace and conflict partners in 2026

The Saudis, are they not buried up to their neck where 9-11 was concerned?

[Oldcarpy2]

The Saudis, are they not buried up to their neck where 9-11 was concerned?

Absolute bloody ignorance with a side order of more ignorance.

Amazing how some folk don't get that NATO is a defensive alliance, not the US' private Military to jump to their demands (not they apparently even wanted them to) and fail to get the "North Atlantic" bit either.

Muppets.

[IdeomotorPrisoner]

There are bunch of "______ First" in this situation.

I think I have identified 6.

America First (AF)
Israel First (IF) 
Europe First. (EF)
Gulf First (GF)
China First (CF)
Jihad First (JF) 

Synopsis: 

I think this really started when AF tried to get IF and GF at a table together, but JF, possibly at the urging of CF, decide to attack IF.

Meanwhile AF created a rift with EF over defense budgets and immigrants all while making deals with GF, CF, and even EF.

Then AF and IF increasingly confronted JF until having a reason to attack without notice when they got a chance. 

But due to previous rifts with EF over immigrants and spending, plus not being kept in the loop, EF restricted AF from using its bases in EF territory..

Fast forward and AF and IF officially combine to become AFIF. 

JF is putting up a last stand in stretch of vital waterway, as AFIF stares them down while EF, GF, and CF try to mitigate any fallout from the conflict. 

AFIF who is now aligning closer to GF - while appeasing CF - and keeping ties with EF, is ironically forcing EF, GF, and CF to work closer to assure mutual damage control.

Soon the source of JF will fall, but not before a global realignment of AFIF, EF, GF, and CF. 

In all it reminds me of an Annie Lennox song...

[CriticalStinker]

Japan, South Korea, Israel, the Saudis, and the UAE are better peace and conflict partners in 2026

What wars did those countries send troops to us for?

So you’re saying countries who have never had troops fight on the front lines along side ours are better than countries who have done it numerous times?

Hows that work?

[andy06shake]

And around and around they go.

Where it stops... 

[Oldcarpy2]

What wars did those countries send troops to us for?

So you’re saying countries who have never had troops fight on the front lines along side ours are better than countries who have done it numerous times?

Hows that work?

It doesn't.  Obviously.

It's why I have that poster on ignore.

[andy06shake]

Donald Trump says he ‘loves the inflation’

[Oldcarpy2]

[Video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S98-haP0UXg]

And around and around they go.

Where it stops... 

I guess we'll see.

So far:

Trump:  "We're close to signing a deal.  A beautiful deal, like no one has seen before".

iran:  "No we are not".

[andy06shake]

I guess we'll see.

So far:

Trump:  "We're close to signing a deal.  A beautiful deal, like no one has seen before".

iran:  "No we are not".

Considering he was found liable for sexual abuse...

I don't think Trump understands "no, means no."

Now i imagine that could be quite a problem where the likes of war are concerned.