Trump says he bombed Iran

[cherokeetroy]

Pay for the wars we wanted and you didn’t.

While you’re at it cut my taxes while I’m at the most wealthy point in my life, and I’ll laugh if you bring up debt. It doesn’t matter, I’ll be dead before anything has to happen with it.

Oh, and you’re a lazy druggy piece of shit even though unemployment is comparable or not much higher while sobriety is up.

Their reality is whatever they can think up.

They hoard all the wealth

Refuse to relinquish control

Allow cable tv to inject propaganda straight into their veins

And here we are

[ReturnofBroccoli]

Think U.S. is about to hit Cuba

[andy06shake]

We are far more powerful right now than at our last go at Empire. The technology exists to rule the natives without getting our asses burnt. One has to get a little forcefull with these peoples. Far more so than what the allies tried in Afghan hearts and minds nonsense. You got to get at their religion. It's Muslims that need eradicating / re-educating from the nursery school level. Until that happens expect more of the same. I'm now leaning towards full o forced conversions. It may seem a little far fetched and Crusaderesque, but I just can't see another way of solving the Islam problem. I'm convinced the Chinese and USA can see common ground here no doubt Indians Modi will be up for it too. That's the three great powers of the future all on board. If necessary a Berlin type conference to carve the ME up. IDF can take care of trouble makers with the Herons drones etc. No problemo. I just don't see another way into the future without at some point one of these nations going full on nuke and terrorizng the planet. 

Most natives loved being under the yoke of the western nations being honest and frank about it. The mistake was letting some of these natives get educated. At the same time we had the Soviets attacking our way of life in the colonies that had worked great for 100's of years. Without the Soviets turning these newly educated natives into anti colonials we would still have our imperial possessions. Most natives loved being part of our Empire, it was the educated minority that were infiltrated by Soviet ideas of self determination and freedom along with military training and weaponry that ruined it all. The Soviets are gone, Russia is shooting itself in the head and can't offer the same as back then. The rev's are now largely dead and the natives once again look at the wornders we gave them like the wheel, cities, railways, roads, the written word with awe. They acknowledge that we were a force for good, we civilised them and gave them workable economies and medicines / education to improve their lives. Empire bar the educated (brainwashes by Soviets) trouble makers was good for the masses. One day we will have to go back, that day in the ME has come. They can't run the places themselves, these places are hell holes, they need us to civilise them and bring them into the modern world. The natives have proven they are incapable of running the show themselves.

That's just more pure imperial fantasy mixed with dehumanising nonsense.

"Forced conversions", "re-education", ruling by drones, and calling whole populations "natives" incapable of self-rule is exactly the mindset that produced endless bloodshed in the first place.

The British Empire didn't collapse because of Soviet mind control.

It collapsed because of two world wars, which exhausted Britain financially and militarily.

Not to mention the millions of people who didn't want foreign powers ruling them from 1000s of miles away.

India wasn't liberated by Moscow, it was driven by mass local movements.

And pretending Muslims are some singular hive kind of ignores the fact that most victims of jihadists are Muslims.

You don't stabilise regions through collective punishment, Orby.

All that serves to achieve is to create permanent hatred and an endless cycle of violence.

[bastion]

Exterminated? Who the heck are you, the chair at Nuremburg? Nope not at all. Yet I do believe that giving the natives control over their own affairs was done too soon. This being proved by relentless trouble within this region. Like it or lump, these natives have proven incapable of running the show, hence the need to re colonise the ME region. no messing about with 'protectorates' or any similar nonsense, just full on taking control. You don't get the natives in South America or Mexico trying to de-stabalise the planet, they were given independence and they've proven capable of just government and a bonus to relations with the civilised world. Not so the Islamic ME, it's proven to be a major thorn in the side of the west and needs taking back under our control. These primitive societies have had their chance, now way have they proven to be capable of self government. Time to take them back and give them an extra dose of education until they are fit to run the show themselves and learn to play ball with TPTB.

On your historical stuff that was then and this is now. Indeed the Arab probably stole all this from India and China. They were like camel drivers bringing things across from the east, not just spices but ideas too. Your list of advancements is more passing ideas on from the east. Good ideas at the time, but borrowed from the east. Not actual inventions by the natives of the ME.

Admittedly it's been a long day but your post said Muslims needed eradicating and eliminating - it sadly wasn't a leap or hyperbole to use the word extermination - especially when you're using disproven nonsense like eugenics and Aryran superiority as reasons to round them up. 

Maybe stop pretending to be from the UK RT? Even the rarest of gammon knows basic history over here and has more tact than to openly use Mein Kampf ideology but replace the words Juden and Undermemchren with Muslims and primitives. You have yet to provide any reasoning why you think you have the right to judge or wipe out well over a billion people but have the audacity to claim doing so is civilised and racially superior.

[IdeomotorPrisoner]

Think U.S. is about to hit Cuba

Could we finish with countries 6 through 10 first?

[DBCowboy]

Could we finish with countries 6 through 10 first?

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I know, and stop the success that was communism.

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[Oldcarpy2]

On that basis, when the Mullahs start threatening us with WMD just remember your position. The name Chamberlain comes to mind. Old Carpy, Mr Peace in our Time!

When have I ever suggested appeasement?

[andy06shake]

I believe you'll be surpried. Trump is on his last tour as President. He has nothing to lose. By bringing down the terror regime in Iran he can set bhimself up as one of the greatest historical figures, up there with William the Conqueuror, Stalin, Washington, Maggie thatcher. This is the moment to propel himself to the position of greatness by detroying the main threa to the civilised world, Iran.

Sounds like political fan fiction to me, Orby.

Trump doesn't get to "level up" his legacy by starting a war.

And history doesn't hand out greatness points for bombing countries.

Real-world military actions are messy, unpredictable, and usually ends up worse than whatever "clean victory" people imagine in their heads.
 
Also, Iran isn't some cartoon villain "main threat to civilisation", it's a country with internal politics, alliances, and constraints, not some silly last boss fight in Ibiza. 

[Orby]

Admittedly it's been a long day but your post said Muslims needed eradicating and eliminating - it sadly wasn't a leap or hyperbole to use the word extermination - especially when you're using disproven nonsense like eugenics and Aryran superiority as reasons to round them up. 

Maybe stop pretending to be from the UK RT? Even the rarest of gammon knows basic history over here and has more tact than to openly use Mein Kampf ideology but replace the words Juden and Undermemchren with Muslims and primitives. You have yet to provide any reasoning why you think you have the right to judge or wipe out well over a billion people but have the audacity to claim doing so is civilised and racially superior.

I am from the UK. Gone through DNA testing and effectively UK or the Hoogenoouts Dutch / Germany for 7,000 years. Proper British with a dose of NW Europe and Roman. When it comes to our country I know my stuff Bastion. I can't bear Nazi stuff, i just do believe our society is superior to the primitive ones found overseas. They couldn't even invent the wheel in many cases. I do believe we have given the world a superior civilising effect by the Empire. You don't see the natives running back to their mud huts and animal hides clothing shawls once they've had a good dose of semi detached housing, running water, leccy, and Primarks

[Oldcarpy2]

I believe you'll be surpried. Trump is on his last tour as President. He has nothing to lose. By bringing down the terror regime in Iran he can set bhimself up as one of the greatest historical figures, up there with William the Conqueuror, Stalin, Washington, Maggie thatcher. This is the moment to propel himself to the position of greatness by detroying the main threa to the civilised world, Iran.

I hardly think being compared to Stalin is much of a compliment.