Trump says he bombed Iran

[Vermilion]

How would you know if that is fact or not?

Somehow I doubt they’d “spread the word”. 

Do you have an inside man?

No sources.
No evidence.
No corroboration.

Fake news.

[ANNEE]

No sources.
No evidence.
No corroboration.

Fake news.

You think I didn’t research it?  Thought you knew me better than that. 

Sorry — but a definitive does not work. 

You can only surmise from your perspective. 

Same as those who think it’s possible.

[DBCowboy]

Trump is giving the evil jackals some more time.

But the blockade still stands and is costing Iran billions!

[chr0naut]

Trump is giving the evil jackals some more time.

But the blockade still stands and is costing Iran billions!

Yes, it is costing Iran billions.

It is costing everyone billions, including the US.

However, Iran's surrender to all the terms proposed by Trump would cost Iran more, and in perpetuity.

So, therefore Iran has little choice but to endure its current losses, in preference to even greater losses.

If Trump and Iran could could compromise, and look for 'win-win' situations, I'm sure that a sustainable deal could be negotiated quickly. But that's not the way they are.

Absolutists think only in terms of winning and losing, and so the middle ground where they may possibly both prosper, is not even considered.

[Astyanax]

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Exactly the opposite of what he should have done. He should have lifted the US blockade and challenged Iran to do the same, with the ceasefire offered as an early reward for progress in negotiations.

But Trump and his gang are foreign-policy greenhorns; besides, of course, this is the easiest way to TACO and still pretend he’s ‘winning’ – whatever their current definition of victory may be. 

It’s rather sweet how children (of all ages) are so impressed by the grandstanding, made-for-social-media antics of the US forces. In fact, the initiative in this conflict has never left Iranian hands since they closed the Straits. They have humiliated America so badly, I fear for their future after the US finally elects a competent President. 

Trump, of course, is thoroughly beaten. Right now he’s so battered he doesn't even know whether his vice-president has a plane to catch tomorrow morning or not.

[Shadow]

Thats pure bullshit.

I have to agree unless I saw hard proof otherwise. Not much anyone could do to stop him if he ordered a strike. Trump is pretty headstrong if nothing else. I don't think he gives two shits about being told no.

[andy06shake]

I have to agree unless I saw hard proof otherwise. Not much anyone could do to stop him if he ordered a strike. Trump is pretty headstrong if nothing else. I don't think he gives two shits about being told no.

Yeah, i mean i imagine the chain of command would have to be followed without question.

Otherwise, there is little point in having one...

[Kwaka]

Trump pushing buttons is what he does. One possibility going MAD, take about 40 nukes hitting Iran to take out a good chunk of the population and systems of governance. Will still be some left in the more remote parts, for a little longer at least?

The military do have a strict chain of command along with procedures that must be meet. Lot of regulations with nukes. The world getting blown up because some leader is having a bad day don't make a lot of sense.

[chr0naut]

Trump pushing buttons is what he does. One possibility going MAD, take about 40 nukes hitting Iran to take out a good chunk of the population and systems of governance. Will still be some left in the more remote parts, for a little longer at least?

The military do have a strict chain of command along with procedures that must be meet. Lot of regulations with nukes. The world getting blown up because some leader is having a bad day don't make a lot of sense.

The effects of detonating 40 nukes would not be confined to the targets.

Some have estimated that it would only take 100-300 relatively simultaneous atmospheric nuclear detonations to initiate a worldwide nuclear winter.

Although the terrain of Iran is quite mountainous and irregular, and the Iranians have prepared for war, having dug underground military bases and shelters for decades, which would mean that 40 nukes would not have the effects on Iran that they might have on flatter and less prepared countries.

Also, fallout would be spread over vast lower-lying downstream areas such as Pakistan and India within 72 hours of the assault.

The actual number of nukes required to 'take out the Iranian military' is classified, but it has been estimated by the Begin-Sadat Centre for Strategic Studies that it would take hundreds of high-yield nukes, at least.

There have already been unverified (and probably fictitious) reports that nuclear codes have been requested by the POTUS, but were blocked by the US military. My understanding, however, is that the POTUS has sole operational capability to launch a nuclear strike via the 'nuclear football' and carries a card, called 'the biscuit' containing all the verification codes. Once a verified command has been issued, the US military does not have right of veto to prevent a nuclear strike.

Nuclear Launch Authority in the United States and Other Nations - The Union of Concerned Scientists

[Sarnaxx]

Once you cross the Rubicon, there is no going back.

I know innocent lives will be lost, innocents are always casualties of war.

But we have to crush this regime.

Crush the irgc.

*boom*

The world will be better for it.

Jesus Christ.  I thought we'd learned from our past mistakes.  Why on earth would we want to become the world's police force again?  This has NEVER worked out for us. 

What has we (the United States) gained as a nation from this war so far?  

1.  We've replaced a dying 84 year old supreme leader with his younger, more extreme son.
2.  Iran is still in control of all of its enriched nuclear material (Nuclear dust as trump calls it)
3.  Russia & China are already replenishing Iran's missile stockpiles.
4.  The Strait of Hormuz is closed (It was 100% open prior to Trump's war)
5.  Our allies despise us right now.. Bush, as dumb as he was, knew that you formed a coalition BEFORE launching an attack.  You do not attack and OPEC member nation and then after the fact ask your allies (who you've spent the better part of a year insulting every chance you get) to join your holy war.  
6.  We destroyed a 55+ year old military that was never a threat to anyone
7.  Oil & Gas prices are through the roof which has thrown the entire global economy into turmoil

For what? Please make it make sense.