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(04-12-2026, 04:58 PM)Vermilion Wrote: We have bombs for every one of their heads.
I thought more here were completely opposed to a theocracy.
It must just be opposition to a Christian or Jewish theocracy.
I’m learning.
That sounds very Christian...
Im learning also.
"Yet so it is, we see the illiterate bulk of mankind that walk the high-road of plain common sense, and are governed by the dictates of nature, for the most part easy and undisturbed. To them nothing that is familiar appears unaccountable or difficult to comprehend."
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(04-12-2026, 02:24 PM)andy06shake Wrote: "UK will not be involved in Trump’s blockade of Strait of Hormuz - as peace talks in Pakistan end without a deal."
https://www.lbc.co.uk/article/strait-of-...VVI6mlaleA
Unfortunately, it is a real possibility that the threat of the blockade is meant only to spike oil prices so Trump can enrich himself.
I'm hearing many investors are leaning towards pulling there money out of some markets due to the instability, and blatant manipulation.
If investors lose confidence in the market, that opens up a whole new set of problems.
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(04-12-2026, 04:59 PM)ReturnofBroccoli Wrote: Even though the UK gets relatively little gas directly from Qatar, countries that do rely on it are now competing for U.S. gas, driving up prices and stretching available U.S. exports thin across the globe because Qatar can't export gas because their tankers are locked in the straight.
Could this be the real reason? Conspiracy anyone? Increase U.S. profits from natural gas? To make the U.S. the main supplier of LNG?
The only way that works is if the US is 100% confident that the other western nations will bitch out and not do anything to protect the Strait.
Oh wait…
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(04-12-2026, 04:46 PM)andy06shake Wrote: Iran is not Japan.
And today is not the 1940s.
You are fighting a religious fundamentalist hydra.
Cut off one head, two more arise...
Something to strongly consider is that the majority of Iranian people want regime change. Women want their freedoms back. You know they’re policed by morality police right? They can’t even show their hair in public without risking arrest. Not away to live.
Apparently I’m in cult now, someone here told me so.
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(04-12-2026, 05:04 PM)IDELB2006 Wrote: Unfortunately, it is a real possibility that the threat of the blockade is meant only to spike oil prices so Trump can enrich himself.
I'm hearing many investors are leaning towards pulling there money out of some markets due to the instability, and blatant manipulation.
If investors lose confidence in the market, that opens up a whole new set of problems.
Market manipulation may well equate to illegal fraud.
And if it can be proved that it is coordinated intent by Trump to artificially control prices or supply...
Oh dear.
"Yet so it is, we see the illiterate bulk of mankind that walk the high-road of plain common sense, and are governed by the dictates of nature, for the most part easy and undisturbed. To them nothing that is familiar appears unaccountable or difficult to comprehend."
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(04-12-2026, 05:11 PM)KrustyKrab Wrote: Something to strongly consider is that the majority of Iranian people want regime change. Women want their freedoms back. You know they’re policed by morality police right? They can’t even show their hair in public without risking arrest. Not away to live.
I agree.
But a lot of them think the same way about our respective nations.
We can't tell people how to live, any more than they can tell us how to do so.
And bombing them won't change anybody's minds but the bankers and politicians.
Additionally, there is real discontent in Iran.
Especially among many women, but "the majority want regime change" is not clearly evidenced.
Iranian society is diverse, and political opinions are hard to gauge under such conditions.
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(04-12-2026, 05:13 PM)andy06shake Wrote: Market manipulation may well equate to illegal fraud.
And if it can be proved that it is coordinated intent by Trump to artificially control prices or supply...
Oh dear.
As President, Trump is above the law.
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(04-12-2026, 05:04 PM)IDELB2006 Wrote: Unfortunately, it is a real possibility that the threat of the blockade is meant only to spike oil prices so Trump can enrich himself.
I'm hearing many investors are leaning towards pulling there money out of some markets due to the instability, and blatant manipulation.
If investors lose confidence in the market, that opens up a whole new set of problems.
Just how is he going to enrich himself? He doesn’t even have stock in oil.
So, tell us how without the reeee……
Apparently I’m in cult now, someone here told me so.
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04-12-2026, 05:20 PM
This post was last modified: 04-12-2026, 05:23 PM by Creaky. 
(04-12-2026, 09:45 AM)Bush Master Wrote: Actually, Kurdistan and Turkmenistan have access to the central plains of Iran.
Its funny how all of the Proxy-Allies of Iran are otherwise preoccupied and unable to act on their behalf. Even Afghanistan cant' send fighters because Pakistan declared war upon them. 
This whole scenario is poetic.
Who controls the world energy markets? Who REALLY controls the world energy markets?
Oh we know
Its the US hegemony that’s in control and there is no doubt about that now, just joking, Israel controls the US and are bit players taking their scraps
Access to Kurdistan and Turkmenistan is a mission in itself, so I am lead to believe but once there, it’s getting in to there
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(04-12-2026, 05:17 PM)IDELB2006 Wrote: As President, Trump is above the law.
Hence, the reason he wishes to remain, president, i should imagine.
Because, as we all know, he can and will be investigated and prosecuted after office.
Trump knows that himself...
"Yet so it is, we see the illiterate bulk of mankind that walk the high-road of plain common sense, and are governed by the dictates of nature, for the most part easy and undisturbed. To them nothing that is familiar appears unaccountable or difficult to comprehend."
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