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(04-12-2026, 05:16 PM)andy06shake Wrote: I agree.
But a lot of them think the same way about our respective nations.
We can't tell people how to live, any more than they can tell us how to do so.
And bombing them won't change anybody's minds but the bankers and politicians.
Additionally, there is real discontent in Iran.
Especially among many women, but "the majority want regime change" is not clearly evidenced.
Iranian society is diverse, and political opinions are hard to gauge under such conditions.
Of interest….
“survey conducted by a Netherlands-based institute found that the majority of Iranians would vote for either a regime change or a structural transition away from the Islamic Republic, highlighting growing demands for political change across Iran.
The Group for Analyzing and Measuring Attitudes in Iran (GAMAAN), which conducted the survey in June 2024, said it polled more than 77,000 respondents inside Iran, weighting the results to represent the literate adult population.
“A majority of the population opposes the Islamic Republic and supports changing or transforming the political system,” the report’s author Ammar Maleki said.
Only around 20 percent of respondents want the Islamic Republic to remain in power, according to the survey.
Support for the principles of the 1979 revolution and the Supreme Leader fell to 11 percent, down from 18 percent in 2022. By contrast, some 40 percent of participants said regime change was a precondition for reform, while another 24 percent favored a structural transition away from the current system.
Opposition is strongest among young, educated, and urban Iranians. More than 74 percent of university graduates rejected the Islamic Republic, compared to 66 percent among those without higher education. In rural areas, however, support for the current system reached 28 percent—nearly double the level found in cities.”
Apparently I’m in cult now, someone here told me so.
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(04-12-2026, 05:13 PM)andy06shake Wrote: Market manipulation may well equate to illegal fraud.
And if it can be proved that it is coordinated intent by Trump to artificially control prices or supply...
Oh dear.
Oh dear what?
uS politicians are incredibly corrupt and never answer for their crimes
The only reason Trump got in was “drain the swamp”
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(04-12-2026, 05:26 PM)KrustyKrab Wrote: Of interest….
“survey conducted by a Netherlands-based institute found that the majority of Iranians would vote for either a regime change or a structural transition away from the Islamic Republic, highlighting growing demands for political change across Iran.
The Group for Analyzing and Measuring Attitudes in Iran (GAMAAN), which conducted the survey in June 2024, said it polled more than 77,000 respondents inside Iran, weighting the results to represent the literate adult population.
“A majority of the population opposes the Islamic Republic and supports changing or transforming the political system,” the report’s author Ammar Maleki said.
Only around 20 percent of respondents want the Islamic Republic to remain in power, according to the survey.
Support for the principles of the 1979 revolution and the Supreme Leader fell to 11 percent, down from 18 percent in 2022. By contrast, some 40 percent of participants said regime change was a precondition for reform, while another 24 percent favored a structural transition away from the current system.
Opposition is strongest among young, educated, and urban Iranians. More than 74 percent of university graduates rejected the Islamic Republic, compared to 66 percent among those without higher education. In rural areas, however, support for the current system reached 28 percent—nearly double the level found in cities.”
I mean I certainly hope the survey is correct.
But again, i would not hold my breath, and i simply don't think bombing them is apt to bring about the desired result or regime change.
I mean it would be great if Iran came back into the fold.
But realistically, since at least we can have a conversation most of the time, without all the silly potshots and hatred.
Do you feel it, or see it in the post?
"Yet so it is, we see the illiterate bulk of mankind that walk the high-road of plain common sense, and are governed by the dictates of nature, for the most part easy and undisturbed. To them nothing that is familiar appears unaccountable or difficult to comprehend."
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(04-12-2026, 05:26 PM)Creaky Wrote: Oh dear what?
uS politicians are incredibly corrupt and never answer for their crimes
The only reason Trump got in was “drain the swamp”
Drain the swamp?
Is that a bit like the "no more new wars" claims?
Election promises, nonetheless, i seem to recall.
They never do what they say they are going to Creaky.
And thats as true on my side of the pond as it is in America...
And i don't imagine much different anywhere else.
"Yet so it is, we see the illiterate bulk of mankind that walk the high-road of plain common sense, and are governed by the dictates of nature, for the most part easy and undisturbed. To them nothing that is familiar appears unaccountable or difficult to comprehend."
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(04-12-2026, 05:21 PM)andy06shake Wrote: Hence, the reason he wishes to remain, president, i should imagine.
Because, as we all know, he can and will be investigated and prosecuted after office.
Trump knows that himself...
Investigated and prosecuted for what exactly?
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(04-12-2026, 05:26 PM)Creaky Wrote: Oh dear what?
uS politicians are incredibly corrupt and never answer for their crimes
The only reason Trump got in was “drain the swamp”
Nah, that wasn’t the only reason.
Reason #1 is that people couldn’t stomach watching the democrat party destroy the country. People are sick n tired of their BS in general eg; open borders, illegals harming citizens, men in women’s bathrooms and sports and all the lbg crap in our faces 24/7, 7ft drag queens reading god knows what to very young children, taxpayers funding illegals medical, housing, food, education, etc….and most of all we didn’t want clowns like Kamala running the country doing further damage.
Those are the real reasons America kicked them to the curb. And Trump has been draining the swamp haven’t you noticed?
Apparently I’m in cult now, someone here told me so.
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(04-12-2026, 05:35 PM)RazorV66 Wrote: Investigated and prosecuted for what exactly?
I imagine he could face the likes of investigations into election interference, obstruction of justice, classified documents handling, financial fraud, tax issues, and hush money payments.
Depending on the evidence, and your courts.
How long is a piece of string?
Suffice to say it's apt to be something nasty and nefarious...
"Yet so it is, we see the illiterate bulk of mankind that walk the high-road of plain common sense, and are governed by the dictates of nature, for the most part easy and undisturbed. To them nothing that is familiar appears unaccountable or difficult to comprehend."
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(04-12-2026, 02:03 PM)ReturnofBroccoli Wrote: Dollar shortage would only increase its value wouldn't it? Printing more is what decreases it albeit probably not the only thing that does. I see I took dollar shortage too literally. You are talking about the rial being shorted? Either way, wouldn't that increase its value then the same way the USD would?
Check this out
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2025/10/2...y%20Sunday.
https://nypost.com/2026/01/14/business/h...ts-report/
Bessent's explanation
https://x.com/i/status/2019506823213039993
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@ KrustyKrab
Quote:Just how is he going to enrich himself? He doesn’t even have stock in oil.
I can't tell if you are joking.
Every major announcement that Trump has made throughout this conflict was preceded by an enormous Investment being made just minutes beforehand.
That would be considered insider trading if he wasn't above the law.
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(04-12-2026, 05:41 PM)andy06shake Wrote: I imagine he could face the likes of investigations into election interference, obstruction of justice, classified documents handling, financial fraud, tax issues, and hush money payments,
Depending on evidence and your courts.
How long is a piece of string?
Suffice to say it's apt to be something nasty.
So all the same shit the Democrats manufactured and tried to get him on in his first term.
And none of it happened.
You can't make this shit up.
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