Trump says he bombed Iran

[KrustyKrab]

You mean like how the handful of you think that anyone who doesn't hold the same views as yourself have to be "MAGA"?   


Pot meet kettle

EXACTLY!    I think that the people saying that the people that support Trump are in a cult are just straight up ignorant.  Rinse and repeat every post…..

[PorkChop96]

We are free the question any global leader

It's OK if we question, criticize, condemn any governing official on the planet 

Any and all politicians are fair game

Everyone except Trump and Netanyahu 

Why is that

Wait, where is the Twitter link?     just messing with you lol 



You are absolutely correct, though it seems that the people with the most to say about said politicians are never from the country of the politician. And they very rarely have an original thought on said politician, apart from the msm garden hose they guzzle non stop from for the next big "gotcha moment" that turns out to be as big a nothing as one can find.

[CriticalStinker]

We are free the question any global leader

It's OK if we question, criticize, condemn any governing official on the planet 

Any and all politicians are fair game

Everyone except Trump and Netanyahu 

Why is that

Honest answer, I think some people have a different perspective on community.

Some people inherently need to be in like minded groups for validation. Doing so gives them a sense of community and they correlate that with country and patriotism. 

There are independent, third party, and left leaning soldiers, first responders, teachers ect. There are people in the above groups who volunteer in their community, give to charity, vote in every election. I could disagree with any of their politics and wouldn’t question their patriotism (a vast majority of the time). Part of that I believe is because I don’t subscribe to any one group. 

Unfortunately I think some people are all or nothing, right and left. I remember when I voted for Trump the first time a lot of it was how Obama and Hillary spoke about anyone not in their camp. That was just a small part, the bigger part is Trump spoke about policies I was more interested in.

I think war exacerbates that though. During Iraq, you didn’t support our troops if you were against the war… which just sounds antithetical to me. You were a terrorist sympathizer. And it was and is one of the few things the right and left (establishment) agree on is war. The left leaning politicians may say they’re against the war, but I haven’t seen any substantial attempt to stop it.

All a long winded way to say some people can’t understand there are different kinds of ideology, all have the same capacity for both patriotism, and policies that can hurt America, even if the supporters aren’t doing so purposefully

[MojoMadness]

This seems to be a widespread perception no matter what people's politics are. I don't experience it myself, though. Despite the frequent ante-upping outrages by Trump and his cult, human nature has not ceased to be predictable to me. Politics is still what it always was. We continue to behave like the animals we are, and our behaviour, individual or collective, continues to be quite predictable in terms of our species.

I really don't understand why people don't get it. My best guess is that we don't care for what the evidence tells us when we inspect it head on, so we make up explanations that appeal to us more, believe our own stories and then get confused when the stories don't work to explain what we see.

Folklore, mythology, religion, superstition, political dogmas, moral systems, psychological theories,  economic theories,  conspiracy theories: none of them have any reliable explanatory power. The laws of physics and causality, coupled with well-founded intuitions about human nature, are all we have to rely on.

Off topic, I know, but this thread is mostly off topic anyway.

The predictability is there, the lack of evolution and change is what gets me. 

Maybe I still hold onto the idea that there is a reason for why we are in the position we are in. In reality I know that I need to hunker down, get away from the internet and focus on things that hold value to me. Though I will say the combined efforts to design this place (Modern Web) has succeeded in making the best drug in the world. Through the algorithms and "personalized" information we receive, many have become addicted to something we hardly understand. 

The power of this does have the potential to boggle the mind a bit. 

I believe the true nature of the world IS Chaos. 

[cherokeetroy]

Honest answer, I think some people have a different perspective on community.

Some people inherently need to be in like minded groups for validation. Doing so gives them a sense of community and they correlate that with country and patriotism. 

There are independent, third party, and left leaning soldiers, first responders, teachers ect. There are people in the above groups who volunteer in their community, give to charity, vote in every election. I could disagree with any of their politics and wouldn’t question their patriotism (a vast majority of the time). Part of that I believe is because I don’t subscribe to any one group. 

Unfortunately I think some people are all or nothing, right and left. I remember when I voted for Trump the first time a lot of it was how Obama and Hillary spoke about anyone not in their camp. That was just a small part, the bigger part is Trump spoke about policies I was more interested in.

I think war exacerbates that though. During Iraq, you didn’t support our troops if you were against the war… which just sounds antithetical to me. You were a terrorist sympathizer. And it was and is one of the few things the right and left (establishment) agree on is war. The left leaning politicians may say they’re against the war, but I haven’t seen any substantial attempt to stop it.

All a long winded way to say some people can’t understand there are different kinds of ideology, all have the same capacity for both patriotism, and policies that can hurt America, even if the supporters aren’t doing so purposefully

If you look at Obama's & Clinton's X accounts, they are very quiet right now
Silence is consent?

That's why I make no distinction between Trump and Democrat leaders
Off stage, they all run in overlapping circles

In the billionaire's Club, you don't secure membership by drawing lines in the sand, making everyone else your enemy with petty arguments over social issues 

Those theatrics are saved for the voters/citizens

These people don't have morals, ethics or a strong stance on anything outside of what is going to maintain their wealth and position of power

That's it
Everything else is negotiable 
You can see the evidence of that by how much they all flip flop on their positions

Listen to how much Trump talks about money
That's all he cares about 
Money, power...that's the language of the elite set

They keep people split up with religion,  politics, race, nationality, gender...whatever they can dream up to fractionalize and compartmentalize the global population 

That is the only method they have to maintain control over everyone 

People can't be allowed to gain the perspective that the real line isn't Rep vs Dem or US vs Iran

It's us (people) vs them (controllers)

[Oldcarpy2]

What civilians was I "cheerleading" to nuke? feel free to quote me and show me bud, i'd say I will wait but nobody here has that much time to wait for something that will never happen. 
 


I think your'e looking in the mirror.   You would be sorely disappointed to know how old I am.

How do you nuke Iran without nuking civilians?

[PorkChop96]

How do you nuke Iran without nuking civilians?

You just love making up things in that "big" brain of yours don't you? 


Where have I been "cheerleading" nuking anyone? 

Please, post me saying I want that or that is what I support. I will be right here waiting

[cherokeetroy]

It's all about money 


"As of March/April 2026, Mojtaba Khamenei is recognized as the new Supreme Leader of Iran following the death of his father, Ali Khamenei. While his personal wealth is unknown, reporting suggests he manages a vast, hidden investment empire with real estate assets totaling billions, including luxury properties in London and Dubai, and has been linked to potential assets over $100 billion derived from oil sales. 
 

• Hidden Assets: These assets often include properties in London (including in "Billionaires' Row"), European hotels, and shipping businesses.
  

• New Leadership: Mojtaba Khamenei replaced his father, Ali Khamenei, as Iran's Supreme Leader in early 2026.
  
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• Vast Financial Empire: Reports suggest the new leader controls a massive economic empire, with estimates of managed assets ranging from over $100 billion to $200 billion"
  
  

[Bush Master]

And what was Trump doing at military  age hmmm?

Hiding from Vietnam  with bone spurs 

he's POTUS now, which pales compared to your service

[Bush Master]

Both places involve potential U.S. intervention in a complex region with strong national identity, difficult terrain, and risk of prolonged insurgency.

The point isn't that they're identical.

But that history shows how quickly limited involvement can escalate into a costly, unwinnable ground conflict.

And night-vision advantage isn't decisive.

America had overwhelming tech superiority in Vietnam and still lost due to the guerrilla tactics and terrain.

Iran is larger, more mountainous, and more importantly, prepared...

Are you betting on the Mullahs? Ill take that bet, PM me.

Yeah, because they are "the same", right?