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(04-10-2026, 11:50 AM)Oldcarpy2 Wrote: 'You guys' are MAGA. Deny it all you like but it's quite obvious.
By the way, I have never posted anything remotely espousing Socialism or Communist ideology.
Before you start the usual....
Yet you have no actual proof that any of "us guys" are MAGA. We have been supportive and critical of him from the beginning, you only see what you want. As usual
Whatever helps you sleep at night old timer
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(04-10-2026, 11:58 AM)Kurokage Wrote: Nope, just the people on here who are defending Trumps poorly managed war with Iran. People are entitled to there opinions and I only bite back when someone attacks me and not my opinion or article I've posted. Certain members seem attached to 'whataboutisms' and 'strawmen arguments' if someone has a different opinion to them. Which 99.9% of the time are the same Trump cult members.
You have done that quite a bit more than just here on this thread, deny all you want but we can all see.
Whatever you want to say to make yourself feel better, I get it
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(04-10-2026, 12:21 PM)PorkChop96 Wrote: Yet you have no actual proof that any of "us guys" are MAGA. We have been supportive and critical of him from the beginning, you only see what you want. As usual
Whatever helps you sleep at night old timer
It's bleeding obvious, old sport.
Same as it was on ATS.
And round and round it goes.
Anything to say on Iran? Apart from cheerleading for nuking civilians.
As for the "deal", it's falling apart.
'l'll just check my Giveashitometer....Nope. Nothing...
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(04-10-2026, 12:33 PM)Oldcarpy2 Wrote: It's bleeding obvious, old sport.
Same as it was on ATS.
And round and round it goes.
Anything to say on Iran? Apart from cheerleading for nuking civilians.
As for the "deal", it's falling apart.
What civilians have been nuked?
Not sure why you would come up with that idea, that's pretty fucked up of you
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(04-10-2026, 12:23 PM)PorkChop96 Wrote: You have done that quite a bit more than just here on this thread, deny all you want but we can all see.
Whatever you want to say to make yourself feel better, I get it
See again, You can't actually add anything to the thread other than to attack me and anyone else who doesn't see the Iran war for the sh*t show it is.
It's the same old chest beating and pretending you're smarter or tougher than anyone who thinks differently to you. Which is both childish and shows certain inadequacies.
I read Putnam6 posts and might not always agree but respect them, as he tends to go after the information not the poster. You rarely post any actual information, just opinion then attack anyone who doesn't share your view.
After a month of Trump spending a billion dollars a day on his war in Iran, Iran still has the keys to the Straits and is charging 2 million dollars a ship, is still able to launch drones and missiles at will. How is that a win, and how do you think it look's to the rest of the world??
"Denial is a common tactic that substitutes deliberate ignorance for thoughtful planning."
Charles Tremper
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(04-10-2026, 12:35 PM)PorkChop96 Wrote: What civilians have been nuked?
Not sure why you would come up with that idea, that's pretty fucked up of you
None.
Didn't say they have been.
But you were cheerleading for doing that.
Perhaps your memory is fading?
Comes with age, sparky.
'l'll just check my Giveashitometer....Nope. Nothing...
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04-10-2026, 12:42 PM
This post was last modified: 04-10-2026, 11:05 PM by Astyanax. 
(04-10-2026, 11:14 AM)Kwaka Wrote: It is for a while when knowing something is wrong, but don't know what it is. Feels like being stuck in the mud, try to grab something, but it all slips away. Just have to slowly chip away until you do find something solid, trustworthy and does fit with reality. These clues do turn up occasionally... as best we can. Carry on.
This seems to be a widespread perception no matter what people's politics are. I don't experience it myself, though. Despite the frequent ante-upping outrages by Trump and his cult, human nature has not ceased to be predictable to me. Politics is still what it always was. We continue to behave like the animals we are, and our behaviour, individual or collective, continues to be quite predictable in terms of our species.
I really don't understand why people don't get it. My best guess is that we don't care for what the evidence tells us when we inspect it head on, so we make up explanations that appeal to us more, believe our own stories and then get confused when the stories don't work to explain what we see next.
Folklore, mythology, religion, superstition, political dogmas, moral systems, psychological theories, economic theories, conspiracy theories: none of them have any reliable explanatory power. The laws of physics and causality, coupled with well-founded intuitions about human nature, are all we have to rely on.
Off topic, I know, but this thread is mostly off topic anyway.
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(04-10-2026, 12:37 PM)Kurokage Wrote: See again, You can't actually add anything to the thread other than to attack me and anyone else who doesn't see the Iran war for the sh*t show it is.
It's the same old chest beating and pretending you're smarter or tougher than anyone who thinks differently to you. Which is both childish and shows certain inadequacies.
I read Putnam6 posts and might not always agree but respect them, as he tends to go after the information not the poster. You rarely post any actual information, just opinion then attack anyone who doesn't share your view.
After a month of Trump spending a billion dollars a day on his war in Iran, Iran still has the keys to the Straits and is charging 2 million dollars a ship, is still able to launch drones and missiles at will. How is that a win, and how do you think it look's to the rest of the world??
Someone needs to get their butthurt ointment out of their moms medicine cabinet again huh? You should calm down, that much stress isn't good for you
nothing I ever post will be good enough for the lot of you who only wish to say anything and everything negative about Trump. You prove that anytime I post actual links and sources that you go into your whataboutisms and "well he is a rapist" "blah blah blah, I shit my pants because I am so angry at a man that I know nothing about" . It's actually quite hilarious
Real world experience needs no "actual data" to prove when you are the one living it every single day, and not the one who doesn't even live in the country you try to be an expert on. Demanding sources and "data" for anything and everything is just your way of showing how little you actually know about some place you argue against every waking moment of the day and you can't stand that someone else doesn't believe the tripe that you push off as "news".
Called out your hypocrisy and you get upset and defensive, that shows quite the immaturity and "inadequacies" you were referring to. But that's par for the course for you, that will never change.
As for Iran costing billions a day, I guess you people really don't understand how a stockpile works do you? It's quite evident you, and those retards on msm don't understand how it works at all.
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(04-10-2026, 12:41 PM)Oldcarpy2 Wrote: None.
Didn't say they have been.
But you were cheerleading for doing that.
What civilians was I "cheerleading" to nuke? feel free to quote me and show me bud, i'd say I will wait but nobody here has that much time to wait for something that will never happen.
Quote:Perhaps your memory is fading?
Comes with age, sparky.
I think your'e looking in the mirror. You would be sorely disappointed to know how old I am.
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04-10-2026, 12:53 PM
This post was last modified: 04-10-2026, 01:24 PM by cherokeetroy. 
We are free to question any global leader
It's OK if we question, criticize, condemn any governing official on the planet
Any and all politicians are fair game
Everyone except Trump and Netanyahu
Why is that
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