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Again. You don’t have a clue what I think.

But what you said about the EU/NATO/UN certainly seems to apply to the nation of Israel.

But yeah. Keep on truckin. Thanks in advance for the non-answer.
(04-01-2026, 07:43 PM)SteamyAmerican Wrote: Again. You don’t have a clue what I think.

But what you said about the EU/NATO/UN certainly seems to apply to the nation of Israel.

But yeah. Keep on truckin. Thanks in advance for the non-answer.


Apparently you dislike the joos.

So keep on trukin; Herr Spincter
You must develop the ability to be disliked in order to free yourself from the prison of other people's opinions.
(04-01-2026, 07:35 PM)DBCowboy Wrote: Why should we spend a dime on the ME or EU?

We can't afford it.


I agree. One certainly takes a lot more than the other though. 

And last I checked, we have propped up and saved many countries in the Middle East from being conquered by others. Odd though when I go look at the War in Afghanistan and the War in Iraq I only see the Kurds on our side. You'd think Kuwait at the very least would have sent some soldiers, but no. None of them did.

In the last 50 years, I wonder what percentage of money spent at war and aid was spent in each region. We had the cold war in one, and the Middle East wars in the other. Take it with a grain of salt, but I put it into 2 different AI models and asked that question. Adjusted for inflation, it says out of all the aid and war in the last 50 years we spent about 50% in the ME and 20% in Europe.

But Europe invests in our companies, bonds, and trades with us. 

We had the USSR and the fear of communism and nuclear war vs Islamic Radicalism. I'm sure there's a debate as to which was a larger threat, but part of that was before my time so I don't know if I'd be the right person to have it. Now we're trying to distance ourself from Europe while trying to secure large investments from the Middle East, most of those governments are Islamic and Dictatorships. And we're trying to ensure they'll still be global powers once oil starts to run dry. Maybe that fixes their view on us, or maybe we helped make stronger a region who still has contempt because we go in guns a blazing every 10-20 years.
(04-01-2026, 07:52 PM)CriticalStinker Wrote: I agree. One certainly takes a lot more than the other though. 

And last I checked, we have propped up and saved many countries in the Middle East from being conquered by others. Odd though when I go look at the War in Afghanistan and the War in Iraq I only see the Kurds on our side. You'd think Kuwait at the very least would have sent some soldiers, but no. None of them did.

In the last 50 years, I wonder what percentage of money spent at war and aid was spent in each region. We had the cold war in one, and the Middle East wars in the other. Take it with a grain of salt, but I put it into 2 different AI models and asked that question. Adjusted for inflation, it says out of all the aid and war in the last 50 years we spent about 50% in the ME and 20% in Europe.

But Europe invests in our companies, bonds, and trades with us. 

We had the USSR and the fear of communism and nuclear war vs Islamic Radicalism. I'm sure there's a debate as to which was a larger threat, but part of that was before my time so I don't know if I'd be the right person to have it. Now we're trying to distance ourself from Europe while trying to secure large investments from the Middle East, most of those governments are Islamic and Dictatorships. And we're trying to ensure they'll still be global powers once oil starts to run dry. Maybe that fixes their view on us, or maybe we helped make stronger a region who still has contempt because we go in guns a blazing every 10-20 years.


But muh bonds. . . . . lol

I'm tired of spending MY MONEY on foreign shite.

Though I'm still for glassing Iran because they have been total dicks for 47 years.
You must develop the ability to be disliked in order to free yourself from the prison of other people's opinions.
(04-01-2026, 07:48 PM)DBCowboy Wrote: Apparently you dislike the joos.

So keep on trukin; Herr Spincter



Where have I said that? Please find the quote or you’ll be reported for lying and personal attacks.

Ive said I loathe war and death, something America excels at both home and abroad. And I do truly believe we should be a lot more isolationist as we have to get our own house in order. Something Trump is struggling to do bigly at the current moment.

In the meantime, should you receive a flag this year because your kid is killed in Iran for our “greatest ally”, I’ll say a prayer. Also you need to keep track of all the $7k IOUs you’ll be paid out in the future, probably. I’m sure they’re good for it.

In other news I’m surprised how divisive this thread is. It’s truly about resetting the financial system and the world order as it stands. It ain’t America vs. Iran. Yet it’s become so myopic with regards to this narrative I thought I was on X, not DI this past week so far…..
(04-01-2026, 07:56 PM)DBCowboy Wrote: But muh bonds. . . . . lol

I'm tired of spending MY MONEY on foreign shite.

Though I'm still for glassing Iran because they have been total dicks for 47 years.

I think I've made it clear I'm not a fan of the fiat monetary system, or how the Federal Reserve hides raising taxes by hiding spending on inflation... But that's the system we have, and bonds basically makes our money have a lot of it's value. It's horribly imperfect, I'd argue reckless... But I'd be willing to bet just pissing everyone in the world off would be the best way to change that system fast, but I'd argue it probably wouldn't be one where everyone makes it to the other side. Think Germany between the World Wars kinda situation.
(04-01-2026, 08:00 PM)SteamyAmerican Wrote: Where have I said that? Please find the quote or you’ll be reported for lying and personal attacks.

Ive said I loathe war and death, something America excels at both home and abroad. And I do truly believe we should be a lot more isolationist as we have to get our own house in order. Something Trump is struggling to do bigly at the current moment.

In the meantime, should you receive a flag this year because your kid is killed in Iran for our “greatest ally”, I’ll say a prayer. Also you need to keep track of all the $7k IOUs you’ll be paid out in the future, probably. I’m sure they’re good for it.

In other news I’m surprised how divisive this thread is. It’s truly about resetting the financial system and the world order as it stands. It ain’t America vs. Iran. Yet it’s become so myopic with regards to this narrative I thought I was on X, not DI this past week so far…..


I loathe war and death also, because I have served and have seen it first-hand.

But keep hating the "joos" because thems "joos" are bad.  lol
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(04-01-2026, 08:00 PM)CriticalStinker Wrote: I think I've made it clear I'm not a fan of the fiat monetary system, or how the Federal Reserve hides raising taxes by hiding spending on inflation... But that's the system we have, and bonds basically makes our money have a lot of it's value. It's horribly imperfect, I'd argue reckless... But I'd be willing to bet just pissing everyone in the world off would be the best way to change that system fast, but I'd argue it probably wouldn't be one where everyone makes it to the other side. Think Germany between the World Wars kinda situation.

Comparing the US to Nazi Germany is not going to win you any points.

Though It might win you a seat in congress.
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(04-01-2026, 08:15 PM)DBCowboy Wrote: Comparing the US to Nazi Germany is not going to win you any points.

Though It might win you a seat in congress.


I didn't compare us to the Nazi's. 

I made an analogy of what that kind of economic fallout would create for us, which happened in Germany during WWI to WWII. Nazi's came after that, and I made no comparison to that.
(04-01-2026, 08:15 PM)DBCowboy Wrote: Comparing the US to Nazi Germany is not going to win you any points.

Though It might win you a seat in congress.



Weird.

Here I thought wearing your IDF uniform in the halls of Congress did exactly just this.



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