Trump says he bombed Iran

[cherokeetroy]

What a load of hogwash that was   They’ve literally funded the majority of wars and terror in the ME and they claim they haven’t been aggressive? Yeah okay.  

They’re also responsible for the deaths of thousands of civilians including women and children.  

let’s not forget they’ve been wishing and chanting “death to America” for almost 50 years, they’re annoying ankle biters getting spanked hard, deservedly so.

Trump on Iran: "Their leaders are all gone. That is why we have regime change. We have nice new leaders."


Are you on board with this?

https://x.com/clashreport/status/2039100...68751?s=20

[RazorV66]

Trump on Iran: "Their leaders are all gone. That is why we have regime change. We have nice new leaders."


Are you on board with this?

https://x.com/clashreport/status/2039100...68751?s=20

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100% on board.

When the now incinerated former leaders chanted "Death to America" for almost 50 years, who needs that shit?

Maybe a terrorist sympathizer like you does but the world is a better place without them.

[CriticalStinker]

What have the ties to Europe done for us except raise tariffs on us, cost us money, and raised our taxes?

Where's the benefit?

They accounted for over 50% of investment into America over the last 10 years. 

They account for about 20% of US exports, where as the Middle East counts for 3-5%.

Europe fought in our wars side by side with our troops.

So why should I believe that the Middle East, who is mostly dictatorships are better allies than Europe? People are mad that France didn't fight in our wars in Iraq and now in Iran. I don't believe we fought in all their African conflicts. There's a difference between offensive/national interest wars where the existence of the attacker isn't at threat vs a defensive war where you were attacked. France also helped the US become independent, I don't believe any of the Middle Eastern countries helped with that.

NATO was imbalanced, we paid the lions share, this is true. It's not like we didn't get things out of it like being the worlds super power and being able to host bases all across the globe. 

Out of countries who have received US aid of all time adjusted for inflation, 3 out of the top 5 are in the Middle East, 0 in Europe. In fact, Europe paid a lot of the WWII cost back to us, which got us to take the throne as superpower.

So let me ask you, what does a region full of dictators who barely interact with the US economically compared to our other allies bring to the table? They take more too.

[DBCowboy]

They accounted for over 50% of investment into America over the last 10 years. 

They account for about 20% of US exports, where as the Middle East counts for 3-5%.

Europe fought in our wars side by side with our troops.

So why should I believe that the Middle East, who is mostly dictatorships are better allies than Europe? People are mad that France didn't fight in our wars in Iraq and now in Iran. I don't believe we fought in all their African conflicts. There's a difference between offensive/national interest wars where the existence of the attacker isn't at threat vs a defensive war where you were attacked. France also helped the US become independent, I don't believe any of the Middle Eastern countries helped with that.

NATO was imbalanced, we paid the lions share, this is true. It's not like we didn't get things out of it like being the worlds super power and being able to host bases all across the globe. 

Out of countries who have received US aid of all time adjusted for inflation, 3 out of the top 5 are in the Middle East, 0 in Europe. In fact, Europe paid a lot of the WWII cost back to us, which got us to take the throne as superpower.

So let me ask you, what does a region full of dictators who barely interact with the US economically compared to our other allies bring to the table? They take more too.

I don't think we should tie our boat to the ME, but I have no desire to tie our same boat to the EU that mocks, insults, abuses, and uses us.

[CriticalStinker]

I don't think we should tie out boat to the ME, but I have no desire to tie our same boat to the EU that mocks, insults, abuses, and uses us.

We have tied our boat to the ME, that's the thing. How many trillions of dollars have we spent there since 2000? And we could say 9/11 happened, but arguably over half of that had nothing to do with it. 

The money we talk about "giving" to NATO is an exaggeration. NATO's operating budget is under 5 billion dollars a year, which we do pay most of. We've spent that in pointless wars in a week or sometimes days. The big disparity is what countries pay into their own military per year. So at best, they have a really powerful big brother.

I guess I fail to see how Europe is some exponential drain on the US when they account for 50%+ of foreign investment, take 20% of our exports, and we're comparing them to a region who takes aid and doesn't buy our stuff.

Edit: People will get their wish. I doubt NATO survives more than a few years from here. Even though Trump doesn't have the power to exit (on paper), I can't imagine most countries will want to stay in long term.

[cherokeetroy]

100% on board.

When the now incinerated former leaders chanted "Death to America" for almost 50 years, who needs that shit?

Maybe a terrorist sympathizer like you does but the world is a better place without them.

The President wasn't incinerated 

He still claims Presidency

He must be part of the nice new leadership

[cherokeetroy]

"During tonight’s Address to the Nation from the Oval Office, U.S. President Donald J. Trump will inform the American public that the deployment of ground troops may be necessary to end the ongoing war and round up highly-enriched uranium in Iran, sources tell Fox News."

https://x.com/sentdefender/status/203949...96045?s=20

[DBCowboy]

We have tied our boat to the ME, that's the thing. How many trillions of dollars have we spent there since 2000? And we could say 9/11 happened, but arguably over half of that had nothing to do with it. 

The money we talk about "giving" to NATO is an exaggeration. NATO's operating budget is under 5 billion dollars a year, which we do pay most of. We've spent that in pointless wars in a week or sometimes days. The big disparity is what countries pay into their own military per year. So at best, they have a really powerful big brother.

I guess I fail to see how Europe is some exponential drain on the US when they account for 50%+ of foreign investment, take 20% of our exports, and we're comparing them to a region who takes aid and doesn't buy our stuff.

Edit: People will get their wish. I doubt NATO survives more than a few years from here. Even though Trump doesn't have the power to exit (on paper), I can't imagine most countries will want to stay in long term.

Why should we spend a dime on the ME or EU?

We can't afford it.

[SteamyAmerican]

What have the ties to Europe done for us except raise tariffs on us, cost us money, and raised our taxes?

Where's the benefit?

Now do Israel.

*shrugs

[DBCowboy]

Now do Israel.

*shrugs

I still think of Israel as an ally.  You think of them as joos and should be destroyed.

BIG difference Herr Spincter