Trump says he bombed Iran

[RazorV66]

And still no off-ramp nor exit strategy in sight.

That you or any of the other anti-Trumpers are aware of anyways.

Does that really make it true?

[Oldcarpy2]

That you or any of the other anti-Trumpers are aware of anyways.

Does that really make it true?

Don't know.  Do you or any of your pro Trumpers know?

[andy06shake]

That you or any of the other anti-Trumpers are aware of anyways.

Does that really make it true?

Yeah, it's a secret RazorV66.

He can't tell us about it.

Same as his prize...

All those troops and the 82nd Airborne are not there for a picnic, put it that way.

If there is no ground invasion, I'll be rather surprised.

[RazorV66]

Don't know.  Do you or any of your pro Trumpers know?

I don't and never claimed otherwise.

[Maxmars]

Perhaps it's a fair and timely reminder...

The topic, muddled and dated though it is...

"Trump says he bombed Iran"

Stop personalizing your angst 'for effect.'

This isn't a stage... it's a discussion.

Speak to the topic, not each other.

[Oldcarpy2]

I don't and never claimed otherwise.

Why ask me, then?

[RazorV66]

Why ask me, then?

What?

I asked Andy.

[Oldcarpy2]

What?

I asked Andy.

I replied to you.

[putnam6]

I mean maybe?

But we’re also talking about the guy who said he’d bomb Kharg island “just for fun”.

So. Yeah.

Have said it repeatedly

#1: If Trump annoys or bothers you, don't listen.

Hell, I rarely listened to Biden's bullshit, especially during a war about a war, etc. Hell, I rarely listen to Trump, certainly not word for word, I read it when its an issue that resonates with me and check what his staff says.

Listen to Rubio and Bissent, hell, I skip Hegseth, but the rest of the military are top-notch analysts

I don't have to pretend the war is going to shit to be concerned, but so far, all mission goals are still obtainable
Quite a few have already been accomplished; there's plenty that can go south, however, there is positive world-changing potential on the table, too

Much like sex, you can fool around recklessly for a little while, but you had better pull out in time, or you will have extra responsibilities and cost

Nobody quit Iraq or Afghanistan because the button pushers made incredible bank on the war and the rebuild, and behind politically terraforming an unwilling host.

Did you ever see the gold shipped to Iraq? That shit got skimmed and laundered big time, connected locals and the extended occupation, like building the Green Zone, ARE NOT likely scenarios here.

Main point when and if big if

Whether Iran goes south is still up in the air, no matter how you wish it were so.

Different Administration, time, opponent, allies in the region, and out will make a failing score different from George and Dick's Excellent Adventure.

If Donald gets even a C+ or B-, it's all relatively good in the hood, and if he gets regime change and basic human rights for 90 million Iranians. Thats a historic world change for the better, weakened Russia and China
already. Considering this might be my generation's last attempt to correct just one thing, we definitely fucked up

If it doesn't work, they are degraded enough that it takes years to mount another missile and drone assault, and additionally, all Gulf states will be our allies with prime AMERICAN MIC defensive systems, and Israel will have its Iron Beam operational.

Who am I to deny 90 million Iranians just a chance at a less oppressive life, with all the luxuries I have in comparison, even as a low-income American? And if they curb the women's suffering and abuse, thats 40 million people given basic human rights where none existed.

It's my Boomer generation's last shot to earn perhaps some semblance of respect from the younger anxiety-filled generations.

Aah

You say you want a revolution
Well, you know
We all want to change the world
You tell me that it's evolution
Well, you know
We all want to change the world
But when you talk about destruction
Don't you know that you can count me out

Don't you know it's gonna be
Alright
Alright
Alright

You say you got a real solution
Well, you know
We'd all love to see the plan
You ask me for a contribution
Well, you know
We're all doing what we can
But if you want money for people with minds that hate
All I can tell you is, brother, you have to wait

Don't you know it's gonna be
Alright
Alright
Alright
Al

You say you'll change the Constitution
Well, you know
We all want to change your head
You tell me it's the institution
Well, you know
You'd better free your mind instead
But if you go carrying pictures of Chairman Mao
You ain't going to make it with anyone anyhow

Don't you know know it's gonna be
Alright
Alright
Alright

Alright, alright
Alright, alright
Alright, alright
Alright, alright

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[andy06shake]

Trump now says his prize is "8 big boats of oil."

Which they are going to "let him have."

The fellas does seem to love his dinosaur juice.

You'd better hope its not 8 big Trojan Horse...