Trump says he bombed Iran

[WallFlowerActive]

The west has yapped about strong democracy and energy independence for decades. Yet one crazy country with zero democracy and is a brutal and violent theocracy trying to blackmail the world for years is putting a serious pinch on countries energy supply by one little straight.

The west is so freaking stupid.

[CriticalStinker]

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The west has yapped about strong democracy and energy independence for decades. Yet one crazy country with zero democracy and is a brutal and violent theocracy trying to blackmail the world for years is putting a serious pinch on countries energy supply by one little straight.

The west is so freaking stupid.

Most of the countries in the region are not democracies, yet we support them.

We get only about 10% of our oil from the Middle East, yet it’s been our foreign policy focus for half a century.

Maybe it’s time they figure out their own affairs. I don’t see what obligation my people have there.

[putnam6]

Yes—Trump was publicly talking about both the Strait of Hormuz (in the broader Gulf security context) and Kharg Island as a potential target in the 1980s, decades before his presidencies. The idea of targeting Kharg has been described as a long-held view in his thinking on Iran



 

Yes, Donald Trump discussed the Strait of Hormuz (in the context of U.S. naval protection for oil tankers) and explicitly mentioned striking or seizing Iran's Kharg Island in a 1988 interview with The Guardian, conducted while he was promoting The Art of the Deal.
newsweek.com
Key Details from the 1988 Interview

• Trump criticized U.S. policy toward Iran, saying the country had been "beating us psychologically, making us look a bunch of fools."
  
• He proposed a strong response: "One bullet shot at one of our men or ships, and I’d do a number on Kharg Island. I’d go in and take it."
  
• This was framed around protecting American interests in the Persian Gulf, during the late stages of the Iran-Iraq War (also known as the "Tanker War"), when Iran was attacking shipping and the U.S. was escorting tankers through the Strait of Hormuz.
  chosun.com
  

Kharg Island is Iran's primary oil export terminal in the Persian Gulf, and controlling or striking it was (and remains) seen as a way to pressure Iran economically. The Strait of Hormuz is the narrow chokepoint through which much of the region's oil passes, making it a frequent flashpoint.Broader Context from the 1980sTrump had expressed hawkish views on Iran earlier in the decade:

• In a 1980 interview, he called for military action against Iran during the U.S. hostage crisis.
  
• In 1987, he suggested the U.S. should seize Iranian oil fields in retaliation for perceived bullying.
  compactmag.com
  

His 1988 comments specifically tied into ongoing events like U.S. naval escorts in the Strait of Hormuz and Iranian threats to shipping. Multiple recent reports (from outlets like Newsweek, NPR, The Guardian, and others) have resurfaced the 1988 quote in light of current U.S.-Iran tensions involving the same locations.
middleeasteye.net
In short, yes—Trump was publicly talking about both the Strait of Hormuz (in the broader Gulf security context) and Kharg Island as a potential target in the 1980s, decades before his presidencies. The idea of targeting Kharg has been described as a long-held view in his thinking on Iran.

[putnam6]

Most of the countries in the region are not democracies, yet we support them.

We get only about 10% of our oil from the Middle East, yet it’s been our foreign policy focus for half a century.

Maybe it’s time they figure out their own affairs. I don’t see what obligation my people have there.

Pretty much what some said about Ukraine...




Not to get all esoteric, but if humanity is going to ascend to its next level of enlightenment, the West has major adjustments, but the Middle East has a ways to go; some have been westernized but not all

if we believe in the human rights angle, that is


Israel is terraforming Lebanon into a friendly neighbor, adios Iran and Hezbollah

[WallFlowerActive]

We get only about 10% of our oil from the Middle East, yet it’s been our foreign policy focus for half a century.

Please cite how the below is wrong.  Where you still didn’t address why the Strait of Hormuz is such a choke point for the world’s economy.  Why the west has put up with Iran’s crap.  And what do you think was going to happen if Iran got nuclear weapons.  

[FlyersFan]

Maybe it’s time they figure out their own affairs. I don’t see what obligation my people have there.

Same could be said about Ukraine and Russia.
Two corrupt governments.
Not our part of the world .. not our problem.

[andy06shake]

A quarter hour + of James O'Brien's take on the matter.

[BeyondKnowledge]

Most of the countries in the region are not democracies, yet we support them.

We get only about 10% of our oil from the Middle East, yet it’s been our foreign policy focus for half a century.

Maybe it’s time they figure out their own affairs. I don’t see what obligation my people have there.

In that oil figure, that does not include indirect imports, only oil. Some of that oil and natural gas is exported to other countries and is made into plastics, pharmisutical chemicals, and other chemicals that the USA imports from those countries.

Everything is linked together in the world economy.  If let's say India does not get it's oil, then you might not get your pills that are keeping you alive. If China does not get it's LP gas, you don't get that new car because they can't make the wires without plastic insulation. That is why the whole middle east area is important for businesses everywhere.

[andy06shake]

In that oil figure, that does not include indirect imports, only oil. Some of that oil and natural gas is exported to other countries and is made into plastics, pharmisutical chemicals, and other chemicals that the USA imports from those countries.

Everything is linked together in the world economy.  If let's say India does not get it's oil, then you might not get your pills that are keeping you alive. If China does not get it's LP gas, you don't get that new car because they can't make the wires without plastic insulation. That is why the whole middle east area is important for businesses everywhere.

Today's world is so interlinked and connected in ways that simply cannot be pulled apart.

That is not if we wish our world to spin.

Oil isn't just fuel.

It's infrastructure in liquid form...

[cherokeetroy]

Not to get all esoteric, but if humanity is going to ascend to its next level of enlightenment


Israel is terraforming Lebanon into a friendly neighbor,

"Terraforming"

You do realize dwellings and entire villages are being destroyed?
people are being killed?

And you want to bring ascension, Enlightenment and human rights into the discussion