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(03-16-2026, 10:42 AM)quintessentone Wrote: Starmer is basically saying there seems to be no legal basis for Israel/US starting this war, so again we see that idea of this war being 'illegal'.
 It's not 'illegal'. That's the buzz word in left wing echo chambers but it's completely inaccurate.
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(03-16-2026, 10:50 AM)FlyersFan Wrote: It's not 'illegal'. That's the buzz word in left wing echo chambers but it's completely inaccurate.
What's the legal justification for it?
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(03-16-2026, 10:50 AM)FlyersFan Wrote: It's not 'illegal'. That's the buzz word in left wing echo chambers but it's completely inaccurate.
Well, Starmer, who is a lawyer who studied International Law, says he can't find any legality in it and with his credentials, I'd believe him over anyone here on this forum who offers nothing more than opinion.
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(03-16-2026, 10:51 AM)Oldcarpy2 Wrote: What's the legal justification for it? Self defense.
And actually the military action being taken doesn't need legal justification.
But if you want one ... Self defense. You don't have to wait to be shot at in order to shoot first. Just the threat from Iran is enough to justify a self defense claim. And Iran has been very bold with it's threats to 'wipe Israel off the map' and 'destroy America'. Coupled with their weapons program and their obvious nuclear ambitions (they even stated they have enough nuclear material for 11 bombs), as well as them being caught in lie after lie during bad faith negotiations ... self defense is an obvious motive for this action.
By American law, war has not been declared so Congress doesn't have to be notified or asked for permission. This is a military operation which means Congress has to be notified within 60 days. It's only day 16. So nothing illegal by American law. And t his type of action has been done by past presidents ... Clinton and Obama for example.
And as far as the UN goes, the UN is not a legislative body. It does not exercise legal jurisdiction over anyone.
SOME strikes by America, Israel and Iran may be against the Geneva Convention. If it can be determined that they were done on purpose against civilian infrastructure that was not known to be being used for military purposes. But that will have to be determined when the bombs stop and investigations begin.
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(03-16-2026, 11:05 AM)quintessentone Wrote: Well, Starmer, who is a lawyer who studied International Law, says he can't find any legality in it and with his credentials, I'd believe him over anyone here on this forum who offers nothing more than opinion.  You believe him because he agrees with your bias.
He's an idiot with an agenda. Just like the rest of the politicians on the planet.
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(03-16-2026, 11:08 AM)FlyersFan Wrote: You believe him because he agrees with your bias.
He's an idiot with an agenda. Just like the rest of the politicians on the planet.
I believe him because he's a lawyer who studied International Law and if he can't find any legality then you find it for us. Put up or shut up.
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(03-16-2026, 11:09 AM)quintessentone Wrote: I believe him because he's a lawyer who studied International Law and if he can't find any legality then you find it for us. Put up or shut up.
I don't bark on command for you. 
I already posted the information.
Not doing it again.
Not for the likes of you.
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(03-16-2026, 11:11 AM)FlyersFan Wrote: I don't bark on command for you. 
I already posted the information.
Not doing it again.
Not for the likes of you.
Exactly, you have nothing just your narrative to push and bias.
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(03-16-2026, 11:17 AM)quintessentone Wrote: Exactly, you have nothing just your narrative to push and bias.  That would be you. Over and over. Everywhere. 24/7.
As I said, I already posted the response to OldCarpy.
I'm not repeating myself for the likes of you.
Go back a page and read it and educate yourself.
(if that's even possible)
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