Trump says he bombed Iran

[IDELB2006]

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"President Trump suggests media outlets could face “treason” charges over Iran war reporting. In an interview with FT, Trump also warned NATO could face a “very bad” future if European allies refuse to assist U.S. efforts to reopen the Strait of Hormuz. Trump demanded Europe and China deploy forces such as minesweepers and commando units, arguing they rely more heavily on Gulf oil than the U.S. He also said Washington could strike Iran’s Kharg Island again, this time attacking its oil export hub. He said his upcoming summit at the end of March with Xi Jinping could be delayed if Beijing does not help unblock the waterway. “I think China should help too because China gets 90 per cent of its oil from the Straits [sic],” Trump said. He suggested waiting until the summit would be too late."

Trump is just flailing now.

He underestimated Iran, so that makes it the rest of the worlds problem.

[Astyanax]

I can guarantee you that they’re not as ignorant as you think they are.  I also think he’s your “orange god”, not mine.  

Rational? What you’re trying to sell is anything but rational.   Apparently your hatred for Trump supercedes any resemblance of common sense.   But of course you know better as far as their war strategy do’s and don’t’s, right?   Is that what you’re trying to tell us?

You have a lot to learn.  Cute you think Trump is in the war room at the chalkboard dictating when and where to bomb,  it doesn’t work like that.   He has advisors orchestrating and directing all of this, not Trump.

Calm down, calm down. Getting hysterical won't help you persuade anyone.

You cannot know how ignorant I think 'they' are (whoever you mean by 'they') – so, obviously, you are in no position to make any statement about 'them' relative to me. Your guarantee is nonsense.

In any case, it is as plain as day that Trump didn't even expect the Iranians to close down the Straits of Hormuz, let alone think that he might have to land troops on Kharg Island to reopen them. If you think otherwise, show us the proof. Otherwise all you have is faith.

I suspect you haven't quite grasped the geopolitical argument under discussion here. Until you do, and formulate an intelligent response to it, would it not be best to keep silent? You're making yourself look like a fool, my friend.

[putnam6]

I think the deny ignorance back in late June could have looked repetitive and a bit pedantic too. But here we are. 

It was in this very thread, I remember people dunking on anyone critical that we had just set the whole conflict back by years. The narrative was that it neutered the nuclear program. We had to do that so that we didn't have to get involved in a more demanding conflict. 

I propose we break the cycle of repetitiveness. I think I had asked the question a few pages back, but I never got a serious hit.

What do you think are the clear objectives before we can say we won?

It doesn't really matter what I think, or you think. Im not military, nor Im I privy to all the military intel.

It's what the Trump administration thinks and why.

• Degrade Iran's nuclear capabilities check
  
• Decimate Iran's naval capabilities  check 
  
• Give a healthy nudge to the regime change check
  
• Highlight the direct danger from Iran to the greater Middle East check
  
• Test Uncle Sammy's weapons against Xi's check, guess who is getting thier water chesnuts kicked in.
  
• Consequently, handcuffing both Russia and China over oil and military contracts alone. check
  

 

And there are potential positives on the horizon. 

There's lots more, but that's a decent start. Everything after that is gravy... situation is fluid as hell. I think Donald Rumsfeld says it best 
 

There are known knowns; there are things we know we know.
We also know there are known unknowns; that is to say we know there are some things we do not know. But there are also unknown unknowns—the ones we don't know we don't know.

And if one looks throughout the history of our country and other free countries, it is the latter category that tends to be the difficult ones

[CriticalStinker]

It doesn't really matter what I think, or you think. Im not military, nor Im I privy to all the military intel.

It's what the Trump administration thinks and why.

• Degrade Iran's nuclear capabilities check
  
• Decimate Iran's naval capabilities  check 
  
• Give a healthy nudge to the regime change check
  
• Highlight the direct danger from Iran to the greater Middle East check
  
• Test Uncle Sammy's weapons against Xi's check, guess who is getting thier water chesnuts kicked in.
  
• Consequently, handcuffing both Russia and China over oil and military contracts alone. check
  

[Image: https://media0.giphy.com/media/I3WAJgc0J.../giphy.gif] 

And there are potential positives on the horizon. 

There's lots more, but that's a decent start. Everything after that is gravy... situation is fluid as hell. I think Donald Rumsfeld says it best 
 

What if the regime doesn’t change, and they still have the 60% enriched uranium? Would it be gravy then still?

[Astyanax]

The Straight of Hormuz is still open for China's money.

Chinese and Indian vessels are moving through the Straits unmolested. The Iranian foreign minister has stated that ships of any country friendly towards Iran may pass through without hindrance. 

Four interesting crumbs of news from the last few days:

• Two homeward bound Indian tankers passed through the Straits while a third took a turn south down the coast of East Africa days ago, escorted by the Indian Navy.
  
• The government of Panama, which earlier acceded to US demands and kicked the Chinese port operator COSCO out of the Canal, has had a change of heart and is kowtowing again to Beijing, begging the company to come back and resume the contract.
  
• One of Trump's speechwriters trying to visit Jair Bolsanaro in jail had his visa revoked and was told to get lost by President Lula himself.
  
• Russia is free to sell its oil wherever it wants again.
  

All these incidents are connected. But what do they signify? Come on, conspiracy theorists, get your tinfoil hats on and work it out! It's not that hard...

[SomeStupidName]

It doesn't really matter what I think, or you think. Im not military, nor Im I privy to all the military intel.

It's what the Trump administration thinks and why.

• Degrade Iran's nuclear capabilities check
  
• Decimate Iran's naval capabilities  check 
  
• Give a healthy nudge to the regime change check
  
• Highlight the direct danger from Iran to the greater Middle East check
  
• Test Uncle Sammy's weapons against Xi's check, guess who is getting thier water chesnuts kicked in.
  
• Consequently, handcuffing both Russia and China over oil and military contracts alone. check
  

[Image: https://media0.giphy.com/media/I3WAJgc0J.../giphy.gif] 

And there are potential positives on the horizon. 

There's lots more, but that's a decent start. Everything after that is gravy... situation is fluid as hell. I think Donald Rumsfeld says it best 

Have you seen the cars lined up for gas in China? It looks worse than the 70's embargo.

https://x.com/EnergyAbsurdity/status/203...4249072966

[angelchemuel]

He underestimated Iran, so that makes it the rest of the worlds problem.

It was already the "rest of the worlds problem".... oil importing countries that is.
Rainbows
Jane

[putnam6]

The point is...Iran was a nuclear threat at that very moment in 2011 when Trump was calling for diplomacy rather than escalation

yeah, that makes sense..
they were less threatening in 2011, that's why Obama was sending them shit tons of money.....


yes, three weeks in and the Strait still isn't open to the US and its allies ..

Ive shown you demonstratively why 2011 is different from 2026, for Trump and the country.

I don't think Trump was looking for war. If the Epstein shit didn't taint him and the Republicans enough, it makes it imperative that he win this quickly and expeditiously.

The intel suggested Iran might have been getting close, considering how Iran spasms and continues to shoot missiles and drones at its Gulf neighbors, which isn't exactly peaceful either. But it's dropped off drastically

2 weeks? 3 weeks? Who cares? It's going much better than expected.



The Strait can be reopened at any moment. Plenty of the regime are on any flight out, rumors of wealthy Iranian families bailing out to where they can, one video allegedly shows an entourage landing in Toronto with wives and trunks of booty? who knows?

[FlyersFan]

Might be true.
Also might be disinformation.
He did go to England a few times to be treated for impotency.
Maybe his impotency with women was because he really likes guys?
(something that can get you tossed off a rooftop in Muslim-land)
Who knows.


NY Post - Trump briefed that Irans New Supreme Leader Is Probably Gay

President Trump was stunned to learn last week that US intelligence indicates new Iranian Supreme Leader Mojtaba Khamenei may be gay — and that his father, the late Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, feared his suitability to rule the Islamic Republic for that reason, The Post can reveal.

 
The shocking claim was described to The Post by two intelligence community officials and a third person close to the White House.  All three sources say the implausible-sounding allegation is viewed as credible by US spy agencies, rather than false information intended to undermine Khamenei, 56, who was selected to replace his dead father as supreme leader on March 8.   Two of the sources said the intelligence indicated that Mojtaba, who earned the nickname “the power behind the robes” while serving as his aging dad’s gatekeeper, has had a long-term sexual relationship with his childhood tutor. 
 
Mojtaba, who is believed to have been wounded in the same Feb. 28 airstrike that killed his father and other members of his family, has made “aggressive” sexual overtures to men caring for him, possibly while under the influence of heavy medication, one of The Post’s sources said.  US spy agencies do not have photographic evidence of Mojtaba Khamenei’s alleged sexual attraction to men, but the sources insisted the tip is solid, with one saying it was “derived from one of the most protected sources that the government has.” 

[Kurokage]

So who actually cares about Iran?

Unless you're Iranian and a jew-hater, you really don't care.

This is because Trump initiated it.

Trump could cure cancer and people would post and protest and be for cancer.

So is this just anti-American posts or anti-freedom posts, or just jew haters going out into the open?

Just because people are against Trump's very poor war strategies concerning Iran, doesn't make them anti-jew or anti-American? That's just a cop-out statement and an attempt to diminish peoples concerns.