03-15-2026, 05:26 AM
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03-15-2026, 05:52 AM
(03-15-2026, 05:26 AM)Astyanax Wrote: Unfortunately they can only do what he tells them. See the problem? True. But we know he's aware of the island and has brought it up before in regards to military actions against Iran. Newsweek - 40 Years Ago Trump and Kharg Island Quote:While promoting his book The Art of the Deal in the United Kingdom in 1988, Trump discussed U.S.-Iran relations following the 1979 Iranian Revolution and hostage crisis. Mulling hypothetical military actions, Trump told The Guardian at the time, “They’ve been beating us psychologically, making us look a bunch of fools. One bullet shot at one of our men or ships, and I’d do a number on Kharg Island. I’d go in and take it.” Trump is a grifting money grubber. He knows Iran gets it's money through Kharg. And he's had his eyes on it before. So I'm sure he hasn't forgotten about it with this war.
03-15-2026, 05:55 AM
(03-14-2026, 12:04 PM)Astyanax Wrote: Of course, the old five-dimensional chess. Silly me. With how things like the Epstein files and the Charlie Kirk case are going, Trump is more focused on Monopoly than 5D chess. As for when and how this conflict ends? Oil, resources and religious nutjobs on their forever war. At stake is control of the Middle East. Iran just has to hold, keep chipping away at Israel and the US Military support in the region. Trump has already had to retreat on the BRICS nations oil sanctions. Already cut of enough of the world supply. Quote:A nuclear deal would have been a lot quicker cheaper, don't you think? Not enough to satisfy Bibi, of course. And maybe not enough winning for Donnie, I guess. Does appear that the first Iran Leader killed was working with all the international treaties on nuclear weapons. That is now out the window as Iran is going full steam ahead, getting support from places like North Korea. North Korea has also restarted it missile testing as the THAAD system got moved to the Middle East. Quote:Nothing to be done about it now. Sit back and enjoy the show. Appreciate each day we have and do what we can. If we are still around when all the dust settles, pick up the pieces and carry on.
03-15-2026, 06:25 AM
Trump claims Iranians are ready to make a deal, but in his words, "The terms are not good enouth yet." As the lady suggests, it might be nice if the Iranians and the rest of the world knew what those were.
"Yet so it is, we see the illiterate bulk of mankind that walk the high-road of plain common sense, and are governed by the dictates of nature, for the most part easy and undisturbed. To them nothing that is familiar appears unaccountable or difficult to comprehend."
03-15-2026, 06:35 AM
(03-15-2026, 06:25 AM)andy06shake Wrote: [Video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HeK9vs6GhTc] The Iranians made it clear what their conditions are to end the war and the last I heard is that they wanted to meet with Russian officials to act as mediator. I'm not so sure that is now an option what with Trump's 30-day sanction grace period for Russia. Russia's interests are Russia's priorities. I think there is a lot of politcking going on behind the scenes...cha ching politicking, I mean. It's all about money, power and control never about the people.
"The only journey is the one within."
03-15-2026, 06:45 AM
(03-15-2026, 06:35 AM)quintessentone Wrote: The Iranians made it clear what their conditions are to end the war and the last I heard is that they wanted to meet with Russian officials to act as mediator. These people don't back down quint. They think they have god on their side. And that's a powerful motivator and ally, imaginarily or otherwise. From their perspective, they are the ones who have been wronged. And they are the ones seeking justice and retribution. America is completely polarised, same as my own nation, but what would the result be if Iran had killed Trump in an airstrike? Do you imagine they would see peace as a viable option anytime soon?
"Yet so it is, we see the illiterate bulk of mankind that walk the high-road of plain common sense, and are governed by the dictates of nature, for the most part easy and undisturbed. To them nothing that is familiar appears unaccountable or difficult to comprehend."
(03-15-2026, 06:25 AM)andy06shake Wrote: Trump claims Iranians are ready to make a deal, but in his words, "The terms are not good enouth yet." Duck Duck go does not want to know. Found this on Brave Browser: Iran’s Conditions Iran’s proposed terms for a truce include: 1 Guarantees from the U.S. and Israel that no future military strikes will occur against Iran. 2 Recognition of Iran’s legitimate rights and payment of reparations for damages caused during the conflict. 3 Firm international guarantees against future aggression, communicated through intermediaries such as Russia and Pakistan. From other reports, Iran wants $1 Trillion in damages. If the USA does not want to pay, Iran will take that money in breaking US infrastructure. Some situational awareness of the knock on effects on our oil dependencies:
03-15-2026, 06:59 AM
(03-15-2026, 06:51 AM)Kwaka Wrote: Duck Duck go does not want to know. Found this on Brave Browser: Yeah i don't see a lot of those things happening, if im honest, anytime soon. They are only apt to piss off Trump and his team vehemently. Which i imagine is their goal. What about Trump? What do you imagine he is demanding on and under the table?
"Yet so it is, we see the illiterate bulk of mankind that walk the high-road of plain common sense, and are governed by the dictates of nature, for the most part easy and undisturbed. To them nothing that is familiar appears unaccountable or difficult to comprehend."
03-15-2026, 07:13 AM
This post was last modified: 03-15-2026, 07:14 AM by quintessentone. 
(03-15-2026, 06:45 AM)andy06shake Wrote: These people don't back down quint. Israel's leader and some U.S. citizens are also claiming that God is on their side. "Benjamin Netanyahu has framed Israel’s military actions against Iran as part of a divine mission, invoking religious texts and prophetic narratives to justify the conflict." "My brothers and sisters, in two days we will celebrate the holiday of Purim. 2,500 years ago, in ancient Persia, an enemy rose against us with the exact same goal of completely destroying our people. But Mordechai the Jew and Queen Esther, with their courage and resourcefulness, saved our people. In those days of Purim, the lot was cast, and the wicked Haman fell along with it. Even today on the holiday of Purim, the lot was cast, and the end of the evil regime will also come. The prophet Amos says, "The lion has roared, who will not fear?" In Operation Lion's Roar, we roar, Do not fear Israel, for are you not a young lion? We will stand as one person with one heart, and with God's help, we will ensure the eternity of Israel." https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2026/3/4/...igious-war Religious nutcases, all. https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2026/3/4/...igious-war What I see is that the Iranian side has the strategy to disrupt the world's oil flows and make us all suffer the consequences, and no God did that. Iran did not attack Israel, nor has any other Gulf country so of course they would think they were wronged because they were not building nukes for war, but now if they are smart they will because to have nukes is to not be attacked but it rather forces negotiations or they are allowed to go about their own legal and/or illegal business as North Korea and Russia are doing, without any repercussions.
"The only journey is the one within."
03-15-2026, 07:16 AM
(03-15-2026, 07:13 AM)quintessentone Wrote: Israel's leader and some U.S. citizens are also claiming that God is on their side. What a predicament. The kicker is it's the same fecking Abrahamic God. It would be hilarious if it were not so bloody tragic.
"Yet so it is, we see the illiterate bulk of mankind that walk the high-road of plain common sense, and are governed by the dictates of nature, for the most part easy and undisturbed. To them nothing that is familiar appears unaccountable or difficult to comprehend."
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