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(03-14-2026, 02:38 PM)FlyersFan Wrote: Liberating the Iranians shouldn't be our objective.
It should be THEIR objective. It's up to them to do it.
If we go in with guns and do it, it'll never work.
They have to forge their own future. With their own lives.
Odd how those that banged on about how Ukraine wasn't anything to do with the US are now cheerleading for this War....
No more foreign interventions and so on......yeah, right. Clown World..
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(03-14-2026, 02:45 PM)Oldcarpy2 Wrote: Odd how those that banged on about how Ukraine wasn't anything to do with the US are now cheerleading for this War.... 
No more foreign interventions and so on......yeah, right. Clown World..
Other than FOX news blowing sunshine up our butts, I'm not seeing a lot of cheerleading. I'm seeing people support it since it has happened and not going away. But on forums and stuff I'm not seeing a lot of people happy that it happened. (I'm talking Americans )
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(03-14-2026, 02:47 PM)FlyersFan Wrote: Other than FOX news blowing sunshine up our butts, I'm not seeing a lot of cheerleading. I'm seeing people support it since it has happened and not going away. But on forums and stuff I'm not seeing a lot of people happy that it happened. (I'm talking Americans )
Vermilion for one seems to be a fan..
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(03-14-2026, 03:02 PM)Oldcarpy2 Wrote: Vermilion for one seems to be a fan..  Oh ... I thought you meant generally ... like in forums and on tv etc.
Didn't realize you were talking about here. Sorry. My bad.
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"Yet so it is, we see the illiterate bulk of mankind that walk the high-road of plain common sense, and are governed by the dictates of nature, for the most part easy and undisturbed. To them nothing that is familiar appears unaccountable or difficult to comprehend."
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Geeeze ... make up your mind. He bloviated about us doing this ourselves. Now he's telling everyone else to take care of their own oil passage ... with our help. He's all over the place. No stability in what he is spouting about this war. Yes we wiped out their navy and airforce but I have ZERO confidence in this.
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Quote:“The Countries of the World that receive Oil through the Hormuz Strait must take care of that passage, and we will help — A LOT!” Trump wrote. He added that the effort should become a global coalition to protect shipping and stabilize the region. “This should have always been a team effort, and now it will be," Trump said.
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(03-14-2026, 01:29 PM)bastion Wrote: He already has - the US doesn't mention regime change or liberating Persians from the regime in their objectives in the war. The fate of otdinary Iranians/Persians has been removed from rhetoric used prior to the conflict that foccused on their oppresion. The US is solely focused on it's own objectives not what is best for Persians, Kurds and the Middle East in general which is why this conflict will last for decades,
I guess you missed what Trump actually said about it when they started the strikes back in February….
“Finally, to the great proud people of Iran, I say tonight that the hour of your freedom is at hand. Stay sheltered. Don’t leave your home. It’s very dangerous outside. Bombs will be dropping everywhere. When we are finished, take over your government. It will be yours to take. This will be probably your only chance for generations. […] Now is the time to seize control of your destiny, and to unleash the prosperous and glorious future that is close within your reach.”
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(03-14-2026, 03:02 PM)Oldcarpy2 Wrote: Vermilion for one seems to be a fan.. 
I’m a huge fan of freedom and liberty.
Who isn’t?
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(03-14-2026, 04:05 PM)Vermilion Wrote: I’m a huge fan of freedom and liberty.
Who isn’t?
Yep. For Epstein paedos, massive drug importers like Hernandez and so on?
How's regime change working out for you?
How did Iraq, Syria, Libya and Afghanistan work out as well?
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