Trump says he bombed Iran

[Moon68]

The only way this could have worked is if the Iranian people removed or executed the ayatollah of their own volition. 

I can only imagine what this may serve to bring about.

Because it won't be stability or peace.

Cutting the head of the snake is one thing, but with that mob, it's like a Hydra.

Cut off one head, and two more grow back.

I must disagree.

Had the people overthrown and executed the ayatollah on their own (which is doubtful after so many years of being repressed) they would've installed the replacement while still bloodlusted.

This could have well meant another equally radical extremist.

By an outside force removing the ayatollah and summarily turning the regimes top picks for the next despot into fishing chum, there is a far greater chance of a more level headed, moderate and forward thinking leader emerging.

[Moon68]

True.
So what kills a hydra?
I don't remember my mythology.
Hitting it in the heart?
That would equate to killing what the Iranians believe.
So they change what they themselves want.

Hercules cut the heads off while Iolaus burned the stumps with a torch.

Slash and burn...kind of like we are doing now.

[andy06shake]

That's what Iran leadership wants.   
I posted a link a bunch of pages back.
A hardcore Khomeni mini-me radical cleric is who they want.
I forgot the name.
Maybe he got blown up in this strike that I just posted about.
(hopefully).

Heracles and his cousin killed it with fire and cauterisation, if memmory serves. 

The key lesson all the same was that brute force alone doesn't work.

Killing a person is one thing, Flyers, but if you make them a martyr to a cause.

Killing that cause becomes almost impossible. 

Factor in crazy b@stards that think they have god on their side. 

And that's a slippery slope best not traveled.

Its certanly not a problem that seems solvable in the interim. 

Again, it would have been so much easier if the Iranians had done the dirty deed.  

 

[putnam6]

Hercules cut the heads off while Iolaus burned the stumps with a torch.

Slash and burn...kind of like we are doing now.

Iran's last revolution was rooted in it's universities and students, from those roots...

SharifiZarchi
In the past few hours, hundreds of Iranian university professors and tech experts have signed a statement declaring the Constitution of the Islamic Republic illegitimate and calling for the immediate transfer of power to the people, while endorsing Prince Reza Pahlavi’s democratic transition plan.


Signatures are increasing by the minute.

Link to read and sign: https://forms.gle/7mxUq4DcHiWCPi2D6
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[andy06shake]

I must disagree.

Had the people overthrown and executed the ayatollah on their own (which is doubtful after so many years of being repressed) they would've installed the replacement while still bloodlusted.

This could have well meant another equally radical extremist.

By an outside force removing the ayatollah and summarily turning the regimes top picks for the next despot into fishing chum, there is a far greater chance of a more level headed, moderate and forward thinking leader emerging.

Sound its mate its a discussion and debate. 

Everyone is entitled to an opinion.

And what kind of replacement do you expect now? 

You can't do other people's homework at that level.

They have to act on their own, else it's not their actions or accountability. 

Killing kings(not a king i know that but similar), especially of the religious sort has to be done in-house.

Keep in mind where these people come from.

And the fact that they are not that far out of the Middle Ages mentality to begin with.

They are going to be sharpening pitchforks and waving torches for years to come by my guess.

[Oldcarpy2]

I must disagree.
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Had the people overthrown and executed the ayatollah on their own (which is doubtful after so many years of being repressed) they would've installed the replacement while still bloodlusted.

This could have well meant another equally radical extremist.

By an outside force removing the ayatollah and summarily turning the regimes top picks for the next despot into fishing chum, there is a far greater chance of a more level headed, moderate and forward thinking leader emerging.

I don't think they could have done it before as the regime had the resources and willingness to violently put down dissent and protest but let's hope that might change.

[andy06shake]

The Kurds are the heroes of the Middle East and Persia.

That probably depends on how you look at it.

But look at how they were treated and/or ignored after Gulf Wars 1 & 2?

Talk about marginalisation and betrayal...

[putnam6]

Sound its mate its a discussion and debate. 

Everyone is entitled to an opinion.

And what kind of replacement do you expect now? 

You can't do other people's homework at that level.

They have to act on their own, else it's not their actions or accountability. 

Killing kings(not a king i know that but similar), especially of the religious sort has to be done in-house.

Keep in mind where these people come from.

And the fact that they are not that far out of the Middle Ages mentality to begin with.

They are going to be sharpening pitchforks and waving torches for years to come by my guess.

Yeah thats a wrong guess, just because the general public got caught behind a brutal religious government. Doesn't make the public barbarians

Our industry is full of Middle Eastern people and the Iranian contingent is ecstatic

[FlyersFan]

Killing a person is one thing, Flyers, but if you make them a martyr to a cause.

Problem is ... you still have to kill the leadership.
That's standard warfare.   
Take away the leadership and the troops have no one to give orders or to follow.
They surrender quicker.   Less of them get killed that way too.

[CriticalStinker]

I must disagree.

Had the people overthrown and executed the ayatollah on their own (which is doubtful after so many years of being repressed) they would've installed the replacement while still bloodlusted.

This could have well meant another equally radical extremist.

By an outside force removing the ayatollah and summarily turning the regimes top picks for the next despot into fishing chum, there is a far greater chance of a more level headed, moderate and forward thinking leader emerging.

Our batting average isn’t good in picking the new government after regime change.

Hell, that was a big campaign point for Trump “no regime change wars”.

Hegseth further expanded on that last year by saying our directive wouldn’t be to nation build.

That was the popular consensus of the American people. We were tired of playing world police and getting sucked into that sort of thing.

Hell, Iran was arguably the first time the CIA did it in the 50’s, where did that get us? Here.