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Trump says he bombed Iran
(03-03-2026, 09:07 AM)putnam6 Wrote: All the handwringing when so far it's going extremely better than anybody could have had a right to hope for. WE are just a few days in.

Ya nervous nellies, this isn't some Ukrainian/NATO cluster f---

Yes the missile and drone impacts are low, but it's still too much.

Once enough launchers are lost, there will be more planes to go drone hunting. It's a numbers game...

two-three weeks max


"Hand ringing"?

Are we not allowed to ask questions about this War?

Or do we just trust opinions of armchair Generals such as your good self?
'l'll just check my Giveashitometer....Nope.  Nothing...
(03-03-2026, 09:08 AM)Kurokage Wrote: Didn't Putin say something similar??  Tongue  Lol

Good luck to them smashing a nation full of dedicated extremists and religious fundamentalists inside a couple of weeks.
"Yet so it is, we see the illiterate bulk of mankind that walk the high-road of plain common sense, and are governed by the dictates of nature, for the most part easy and undisturbed. To them nothing that is familiar appears unaccountable or difficult to comprehend."
(03-03-2026, 09:10 AM)putnam6 Wrote: Sit back and watch history in the making...

As someone else said, Azerbaijan is going WTH

It's the kind of history being made that will turn out to be problematic.
"Yet so it is, we see the illiterate bulk of mankind that walk the high-road of plain common sense, and are governed by the dictates of nature, for the most part easy and undisturbed. To them nothing that is familiar appears unaccountable or difficult to comprehend."
(03-03-2026, 09:07 AM)putnam6 Wrote: All the handwringing when so far it's going extremely better than anybody could have had a right to hope for. WE are just a few days in.

Ya nervous nellies, this isn't some Ukrainian/NATO cluster f---

Yes the missile and drone impacts are low, but it's still too much.

Once enough launchers are lost, there will be more planes to go drone hunting. It's a numbers game...

two-three weeks max

Iraq and Afghanistan were going extremely well in the early phases. 

Its not handwringing to learn from ones lessons. We lost thousands of lives and spent trillions of dollars on Iraq when the whole justification was wrong for it.

This admin said they obliterated Irans nuclear weapons program and fissile material in the summer. They made press releases in no uncertain terms that reporting it wasn’t all destroyed was fake news. It took them 28 years of trying to never make one and we’re back in months.

Rubio said the quite part out loud. We went in because we knew Israel was going to attack. We’re not projecting our foreign policy right now… We’re reacting to, and following the lead of a nation we hold no treaties with.

We’re using our most advanced weapons on a non peer nation. There are other countries that pose far more of a threat right now.
(03-03-2026, 09:14 AM)Oldcarpy2 Wrote: "Hand ringing"?

Are we not allowed to ask questions about this War?

Or do we just trust opinions of armchair Generals such as your good self?

Ive never said trust me, all Ive suggested is this is my read of a situation. Shit Im wrong all the time

I don't want to argue, I want to discuss the events as they unfold.

Whatever happens is historic; Iran's dealt with a lot





Especially since DI is now playing in extra time
His mind was not for rent to any god or government
Always hopeful yet discontent, knows changes aren't permanent
But change is 
Professor Neil Ellwood Peart 
 
[Image: PEART-2744335652.gif]

 
(03-03-2026, 09:07 AM)putnam6 Wrote: All the handwringing when so far it's going extremely better than anybody could have had a right to hope for. WE are just a few days in.

Ya nervous nellies, this isn't some Ukrainian/NATO cluster f---

Yes the missile and drone impacts are low, but it's still too much.

Once enough launchers are lost, there will be more planes to go drone hunting. It's a numbers game...

two-three weeks max

It's a lot more complicated than that. Iran almost half the size of the US and incredibly mountainous terrain - it has more warlords than Iraq and Afghanistan with 100,000s of hardline IRGC on top of regular Iranian Army. Two to three decades is a more realistic minimum based off all other recent ME conflicts with a very high likelyhood of ISIS or similar filling the power vacuum.
(03-03-2026, 09:40 AM)putnam6 Wrote: Ive never said trust me, all Ive suggested is this is my read of a situation. Shit Im wrong all the time

I don't want to argue, I want to discuss the events as they unfold.

Whatever happens is historic; Iran's dealt with a lot

[Video: https://youtu.be/wM7FYFy_Wwc?si=kJN1xdRiyGBOppAq]


Especially since DI is now playing in extra time

I think many who are concerned about an unending and out of control war would be far more in agreement, if Trump had backed up his words when the Iranian people took to the streets to demonstrate and were out right murdered by the regime.

What ever the reason for these attacks now, we all hope when the smoke clears the Iranian people will be free to make their own decisions and not ruled by another group of radicals



 
"Denial is a common tactic that substitutes deliberate ignorance for thoughtful planning." 
Charles Tremper
(03-03-2026, 09:57 AM)bastion Wrote: It's a lot more complicated than that. Iran almost half the size of the US and incredibly mountainous terrain - it has more warlords than Iraq and Afghanistan with 100,000s of hardline IRGC on top of regular Iranian Army. Two to three decades is a more realistic minimum based off all other recent ME conflicts with a very high likelyhood of ISIS or similar filling the power vacuum.

Ive read CIA's handbook on Iran

I'm referring to knocking the missile launchers out, the only country used to getting pummeled is Israel. All the others will either withdraw from internal pressure or find the resolve to throw off the 18th-century dogma and fight back to progress to the 21st century.

If the right ones fight back its over

Right now Iran is still getting pummeled
Quote:[Image: https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/exte...00x200.jpg]MiddleEastoe24

MAJOR BREAKING: Operation LION'S ROAR (USA-ISRAEL)

Israel has carried out a strike on a high level gathering in Iran where senior clerics were reportedly meeting to choose a new Supreme Leader. According to a senior Israeli military official, the strike destroyed the building housing Iran’s Assembly of Experts, the 88 member clerical body responsible for selecting the country’s next Supreme Leader. The council was said to be in session at the time of the attack.
Source
https://x.com/MiddleEastoe24/status/2028851950284873822
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Quote:Reza Pahlavi
@PahlaviReza
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4h
Translated from Persian
My dear compatriots in the provinces of Khuzestan, Ilam, Kermanshah, Kurdistan, and West Azerbaijan,

Brave and patriotic Azeris, Kurds, and Lors of Iran,

Honorable Yarsan community,

Jaf, Kalhor, Sanjabi, and Bakhtiari tribes and clans,

From the very first day of the Islamic Republic's rise to power until now, you have been subjected to the wrath, torment, and persecution of this despotic and criminal regime—without ever submitting. Over the past 47 years, especially in the National Revolution of the Lion and Sun, you have offered dozens of immortal souls to the path of freedom and the reclamation of our country.

I assure you that I will exert my utmost efforts so that, on the morrow of Iran's liberation, with the establishment of a government based on the separation of religion from state, grounded in the rule of law and equal citizenship rights, you will no longer face discrimination. You will be able to live freely, just like any other Iranian, while preserving your identity, and justly benefit from the blessings of a free Iran.

You are part of the historic and cultural body of Iran that has always safeguarded the territorial integrity of the country and the honor and pride of the nation. I am confident that you will remain steadfast in this covenant.

We stand on the threshold of this regime's collapse. But we must remain vigilant and prepared, and not allow opportunistic forces—those who have always cast greedy eyes on Iran's soil—to exploit the situation. I believe that with national resolve and unity, a bright tomorrow awaits you and every other Iranian.

Long live Iran,
Reza Pahlavi
His mind was not for rent to any god or government
Always hopeful yet discontent, knows changes aren't permanent
But change is 
Professor Neil Ellwood Peart 
 
[Image: PEART-2744335652.gif]

 
(03-03-2026, 09:40 AM)putnam6 Wrote: Ive never said trust me, all Ive suggested is this is my read of a situation. Shit Im wrong all the time

I don't want to argue, I want to discuss the events as they unfold.

Whatever happens is historic; Iran's dealt with a lot

[Video: https://youtu.be/wM7FYFy_Wwc?si=kJN1xdRiyGBOppAq]


Especially since DI is now playing in extra time

Poor woman.

RIP.
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