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(Yesterday, 11:53 AM)andy06shake Wrote: Our meddling has worked so well in the past over there.
Foreign occupations rarely fix societies.
What it does do is create resentment and instability.
You can't bomb or colonise people into adopting new beliefs...
Quite the opposite.
Ok. So what's the answer? Bearing in mind iran really is developing nukes and ballistic missiles. What's the answer instead of destroying their capability?
“If we believe a thing to be bad, and if we have a right to prevent it, it is our duty to try to prevent it and damn the consequences.”
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(Yesterday, 12:09 PM)Orby Wrote: Ok. So what's the answer? Bearing in mind iran really is developing nukes and ballistic missiles. What's the answer instead of destroying their capability?
Don't we get to find out on Friday?
I wish I had some real answers as to how to bring Iran into the fold, Orby, i don't.
But history proves bombing them won't work...
"Yet so it is, we see the illiterate bulk of mankind that walk the high-road of plain common sense, and are governed by the dictates of nature, for the most part easy and undisturbed. To them nothing that is familiar appears unaccountable or difficult to comprehend."
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(Yesterday, 12:09 PM)Orby Wrote: Ok. So what's the answer? Bearing in mind iran really is developing nukes and ballistic missiles. What's the answer instead of destroying their capability?
Probably not a one and a half page 'Agreement" in general terms?
'l'll just check my Giveashitometer....Nope. Nothing...
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(Yesterday, 12:17 PM)Oldcarpy2 Wrote: Probably not a one and a half page 'Agreement" in general terms?
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(Yesterday, 12:16 PM)andy06shake Wrote: Don't we get to find out on Friday? 
I wish I had some real answers as to how to bring Iran into the fold, Orby, i don't.
But history proves bombing them won't work...
Bombing the Islamic world's nuclear ambitions, Syria, Iraq, now Iran, has worked brilliantly. Absolutely spot on. It works. There is no other way but to keep pounding them.
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(Yesterday, 12:26 PM)Orby Wrote: Bombing the Islamic world's nuclear ambitions, Syria, Iraq, now Iran, has worked brilliantly. Absolutely spot on. It works. There is no other way but to keep pounding them.
But Pakistan is ok?
Why does that Islamic nation get a pass?
How about North Korea?
Who actually threatened the USA and South Korea with nuclear annihilation?
And actually have the capability to do so.
When do they get a pounding?
I mean if "it works" those should be easy questions to answer...
Now if I were Cuba or Greenland, i might be shitting a bit of a brick after Friday.
"Yet so it is, we see the illiterate bulk of mankind that walk the high-road of plain common sense, and are governed by the dictates of nature, for the most part easy and undisturbed. To them nothing that is familiar appears unaccountable or difficult to comprehend."
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(Yesterday, 12:31 PM)andy06shake Wrote: But Pakistan is ok?
How about North Korea?
Who actually threatened the USA and South Korea with nuclear annihilation?
And actually have the capability to do so.
When do they get a pounding?
I mean if "it works" those should be easy questions to answer...
Pakistan doesn't count as they are tied in with us, indeed they ran our Asian and some of our African empire for us. They're on side. Korea? They just want to be left alone. When Koreans start sending proxies around the world, funding them and arming them, then I'll worry. Until then they are contained. Not an ideological threat anyway these days, not like militant shia Islam. Korean's get off no problem. Totally different breed to those in the Gulf.
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(Yesterday, 12:39 PM)Orby Wrote: Pakistan doesn't count as they are tied in with us, indeed they ran our Asian and some of our African empire for us. They're on side. Korea? They just want to be left alone. When Koreans start sending proxies around the world, funding them and arming them, then I'll worry. Until then they are contained. Not an ideological threat anyway these days, not like militant shia Islam. Korean's get off no problem. Totally different breed to those in the Gulf.
Does being tied to the US change the fact that they are an Islamic nation?
Need i remind you that Iran was once tied to the US?
As to NK being on side, and just wanting to be left alone?
You realise that, technically, they are still at war?
You just make the rules up as you go along...
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(Yesterday, 12:53 PM)andy06shake Wrote: Does being tied to the US change the fact that they are an Islamic nation?
Need i remind you that Iran was once tied to the US?
As to NK being on side, and just wanting to be left alone?
You realise that, technically, they are still at war?
You just make the rules up as you go along... 
Well. In this case the rules have changed 
The rules are, you are either with us. Or against us. Pakistan is fine for now. Kim or whatever incarnation it's called likes Basketball so he is fine for now
Iran is not on side and against us. Hence the need to pound them.
It's so simple, yet effective for 100 years. You just keep pounding them. Then, if necessary let them turn on themselves, example Iraq or Syria. While the natives are fighting and killing themselves, they aren't causing trouble overseas. It's so simple and works every time.
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Trump says $300B fund to rebuild Iran is ‘Fake News’
Quote:President Trump on Monday sought to cast doubt on Iran getting $300 billion in reconstruction funding as part of a peace agreement with the U.S. if the Middle East country upholds its obligations.
“Iran has agreed to never have a Nuclear Weapon! Also, the story that the U.S. is paying Iran 300 million Dollars is Fake News, put out by the Dumocrats!!!” Trump wrote on his Truth Social platform, concluding the post with “President DJT.”
The Hill has reached out to the White House for comment.
Trump’s rebuke comes after a U.S. official told reporters earlier Monday, “We discussed the possibility of releasing frozen funds, sanctions relief, you know, a big $300 billion fund to rebuild their country, and all of these things are going to be tied to performance.”
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