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(06-15-2026, 11:34 PM)Shadow Wrote: Obama wasn't divisive. Republicans just hate black people. We had our first black President, who left office 9 years ago, and you guys still can't get over it.


The race card is virtually useless anymore.
(Yesterday, 09:54 AM)RazorV66 Wrote: The race card is virtually useless anymore.

You should tell your side that too. They get all in a tiff if you are critical of the secular state of Israel, even if you criticize other Gulf nations too.

Even pass laws against speech towards Israel more than any other government.
(Yesterday, 08:24 AM)DennisR6 Wrote: I really do not see Iran just giving in without some immediate payout in some form. And I am not going to take Eric Daugherty at his word.
I believe Iran does want this to end just as we do but I have little faith in how this is going to go about coming from any government. I will wait to see what happens on Friday, but we all can see the timing and how that oddly seems to always happen when oil trades and markets move.
Oh and this current administration has a nasty habit of lying often so with a tiny grain of salt is how i'll take it thank you very much.

It's not just Daugherty, but OK

So essentially, you believe Iranian azzhats that abuse thier women and think their Mullahs Generals and newspaper never lie either...

and thats enough of Deny Ignorance for me today, haha

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His mind was not for rent to any god or government
Always hopeful yet discontent, knows changes aren't permanent
But change is 
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(Yesterday, 09:54 AM)RazorV66 Wrote: The race card is virtually useless anymore.

As long as one is white im sure thats true...

But racism hasn't disappeared.

Not in my nation or your own.
"Yet so it is, we see the illiterate bulk of mankind that walk the high-road of plain common sense, and are governed by the dictates of nature, for the most part easy and undisturbed. To them nothing that is familiar appears unaccountable or difficult to comprehend."
(Yesterday, 08:41 AM)CriticalStinker Wrote: I told you what the problem is, it devalues existing currency and causes inflation.

Quantitive easing at least primes the pumps of the markets. I’m not a fan of the practice, but at least there’s an arguement it helps our economy.

That’s a far cry from printing hundreds of billions for a foreign nation.

Oh I know exactly where you're coming from. This is, in many ways a clash of civilisations. It's just a shame the will isn't there anymore in the West to do what needs doing and finish off the Iranian Revolution experiment once and for all. All this 'negotiating' nonsense, if Orby was in charge Iran would be going through a good old phase of colonisation already  Lol
“If we believe a thing to be bad, and if we have a right to prevent it, it is our duty to try to prevent it and damn the consequences.” 
(Yesterday, 08:55 AM)andy06shake Wrote: The US doesn't just "print as much dosh as it wants" without consequences, Orby.

And the $$$$$ is strong because of trust, not magic.

Print too much and you get inflation, higher interest rates, and global pushback...

Even if oil is traded in dollars.
 
And the "Arab world uses dollars for carbon/oil so it's free money" is the old petrodollar myth.

It's still trade.

And it's still debt.
 
Again, there's no confirmed bomb to "hand over."

It's about enrichment levels monitored by the International Atomic Energy Agency.

They just need someone with the balls to go in sort out the Iranian Revolution once and for all and move the natives into a new phase of brainwashing through colonisation, for as long as it takes to rid them of the Mullah Mindset.
“If we believe a thing to be bad, and if we have a right to prevent it, it is our duty to try to prevent it and damn the consequences.” 
(Yesterday, 10:39 AM)putnam6 Wrote: It's not just Daugherty, but OK

So essentially, you believe Iranian azzhats that abuse thier women and think their Mullahs Generals and newspaper never lie either...

and thats enough of Deny Ignorance for me today, haha

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He is technically correct... the best kind of correct. 

But the second part of that is explaining WHO GIVES Iran the 300 billion dollars. It's kinda misleading to not clarify.

It's not US money, but rather the Gulf States money footing the rebuild fund. Particularly, Saudi Arabia, UAE, and Qatar.

Iran gets 300 billion through others in this deal if....
Quote:To access the conditional $300 billion reconstruction and investment package from Gulf states, Iran must verifiably fulfill specific security, nuclear, and regional compliance obligations outlined in its memorandum of understanding with the United States.

Key conditions for accessing the funds include:

• Nuclear & Security Compliance: Iran must permanently halt nuclear weapons development, surrender enriched uranium, and accept strict international inspections.

• Regional Stability: An end to regional attacks, such as drone/missile strikes, and a halt to supporting terrorism, ensuring regional stability.

• Maritime Security: Guaranteed free, toll-free passage through the Strait of Hormuz.

What we do "give them." Isn't us giving them anything either, but the time-honored tradition of unfreezing their money...
Quote:The exact amount of frozen assets being unfrozen is heavily disputed. Iranian state media claims the U.S. agreed to unfreeze up to $24 billion (with $12 billion released upfront). In contrast, the White House strongly denies that any specific unfreezing of "cash" has been agreed upon, stating that asset release figures do not appear in the official texts.

But it shouldn't have been so easy to predict. 
 
(05-27-2026, 11:40 AM)IdeomotorPrisoner Wrote: Carter and Trump are more alike with their middle east goals, similar approaches to get Accords signed. Only one has a willingness to use war to get those final signatures. 

"While Carter and his administration negotiated and finalized the release agreement—which included unfreezing roughly $8 billion in Iranian assets—the Iranians intentionally delayed the planes' takeoff. The hostages were finally freed into American custody on January 20, 1981, just minutes after Ronald Reagan took the oath of office." 
 
That's Iran all over. And still Iran all over. But with inflation 8 billion is now 24 billion...
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'l'll just check my Giveashitometer....Nope.  Nothing...
(Yesterday, 11:13 AM)Orby Wrote: They just need someone with the balls to go in sort out the Iranian Revolution once and for all and move the natives into a new phase of brainwashing through colonisation, for as long as it takes to rid them of the Mullah Mindset.

Our meddling has worked so well in the past over there.

Foreign occupations rarely fix societies.

What it does do is create resentment and instability.

You can't bomb or colonise people into adopting new beliefs...

Quite the opposite.
"Yet so it is, we see the illiterate bulk of mankind that walk the high-road of plain common sense, and are governed by the dictates of nature, for the most part easy and undisturbed. To them nothing that is familiar appears unaccountable or difficult to comprehend."



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