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Trump is in talks with Russia to end the war
(03-18-2025, 03:27 PM)chr0naut Wrote: Trudeau, a career politician, has won more elections than Trump. In democracies, representatives are chosen by election. Trudeau has won about eight elections. Also, I think he has lost fewer elections than Trump.

By those measures, he has been both popular and successful.

Oh, and he resigned from being PM. He wasn't voted out.

5 stars for trying. lol
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(03-18-2025, 03:11 PM)Oldcarpy2 Wrote: "MY POINT STILL STANDS - Ukraine counter-invaded. heh."

Why the Hell shouldn't they?

It's a War.

Using that logic, those naughty Allies in WW2 shouldn't have invaded Germany?

WTAF?
You really like the jump to conclusions game.  
At any rate, this 'incursion' into Kursk helped nothing strategically. It's just a scrappy little F-you.  

Here is an update for you

https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/wha...025-03-12/

A typical waste of life
 

Kursk is a part of western Russia that borders the Sumy region of Ukraine. On August 6 last year, Ukraine sprang one of the biggest surprises of the war when its troops smashed across the frontier and captured a piece of territory that it said measured 1,376 sq km (530 sq miles) at its peak and included about 100 towns and villages.
Since then, Russian forces and troops from Moscow's ally North Korea have clawed back close to 90% of that land.
President Vladimir Putin visited Kursk on Wednesday in a sign of confidence that Russia is close to recapturing the entire region, and ordered his top commander to finish the job as soon as possible. Ukraine's top army commander, Oleksandr Syrskyi, said on Wednesday that Kyiv's troops would keep operating in Kursk as long as needed and that fighting continued in and around the town of Sudzha.
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(03-18-2025, 03:31 PM)sahgwa Wrote: You really like the jump to conclusions game.  
At any rate, this 'incursion' into Kursk helped nothing strategically. It's just a scrappy little F-you.  

Here is an update for you

https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/wha...025-03-12/

A typical waste of life
 

Kursk is a part of western Russia that borders the Sumy region of Ukraine. On August 6 last year, Ukraine sprang one of the biggest surprises of the war when its troops smashed across the frontier and captured a piece of territory that it said measured 1,376 sq km (530 sq miles) at its peak and included about 100 towns and villages.
Since then, Russian forces and troops from Moscow's ally North Korea have clawed back close to 90% of that land.
President Vladimir Putin visited Kursk on Wednesday in a sign of confidence that Russia is close to recapturing the entire region, and ordered his top commander to finish the job as soon as possible. Ukraine's top army commander, Oleksandr Syrskyi, said on Wednesday that Kyiv's troops would keep operating in Kursk as long as needed and that fighting continued in and around the town of Sudzha.

I saw reported (by those who follow this war daily) that there are gaps that the Ukrainian military could breach but they need better Intel right now.
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LOl!

"President Vladimir Putin visited Kursk on Wednesday in a sign of confidence that Russia is close to recapturing the entire region, and ordered his top commander to finish the job as soon as possible."

My sources ( see what I did there?) say it was a very obvious body double.
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(03-18-2025, 03:19 PM)quintessentone Wrote: It looks to me that both parties play into division, distraction, word salads, propaganda and tell the people exactly what they want to hear, but never deliver on their promises, i.e. con job. 

Most of all the Governments in the world, play into division, distraction, word salads, and propaganda, and tell the people exactly what they want to hear, but never deliver on their promises, i.e. con job.

  It is the nature of the beast and a necessary evil, till we find another form, timewise though it has been just a blip 250 years tops, we were bound to make some mistakes in our first attempt unless we included the Magna Carta 810 years ago. Even then we could have had the perfect form of human governance several times, but unless it could be defended it is completely unsustainable. That was true in the 13th century and its true today. 

Ive said it hundreds of times the only difference between the Republicans and the Democrats is how they enrich themselves and how they are owned by different special-interest lobbyist groups per party

But the heavy hitters Defense Aerospace, Big Pharma, Big Tech, etc flirt heavily with both. 

That was part of Trump's allure he is wealthy already and he wasn't exactly Republican, throw in the RFKjr Tulsi Gabbard it felt like it spread to more branches of American society than the Progressive Left.

For now, then it will swing back the other way
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Magna Carta?

Did she die in vain?

Duh
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(03-18-2025, 03:06 PM)chr0naut Wrote: Ha, ha, ha, ha...

You are blaming foreigners for American politicians.

I'm fairly sure Americans did all that.

Tongue

Nope.   I'm pointing out that the poster is just a foreigner with an attitude.
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(03-18-2025, 02:29 PM)Oldcarpy2 Wrote: Yes.

The binary choice in the US election system simply sucks.

Yep.  I've been telling people to 'think Libertarian' when they vote ... been saying that for years. 
Unfortunately, this time around the Libertarian was an even worse choice than Biden, Harris or Trump.
SUCKY all around.
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(03-18-2025, 03:27 PM)chr0naut Wrote: Trudeau, a career politician, has won more elections than Trump. In democracies, representatives are chosen by election. Trudeau has won about eight elections. Also, I think he has lost fewer elections than Trump.

By those measures, he has been both popular and successful.

Oh, and he resigned from being PM. He wasn't voted out.

Irrelevant.  He was still inept.   A major wuss of a man too.  Pretty pathetic guy.
And he resigned because he wouldn't have been able to win another election.
Governor Trudeau got trolled, and it made him look even weaker than usual,
which was a hard thing to do.
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(03-18-2025, 03:11 PM)Oldcarpy2 Wrote: "MY POINT STILL STANDS - Ukraine counter-invaded. heh."

Why the Hell shouldn't they?

It's a War.

Using that logic, those naughty Allies in WW2 shouldn't have invaded Germany?

WTAF?

True.
Ukraine was invaded.
They have every right to fight back, and do incursions into the invading country.
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