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(03-06-2025, 12:11 PM)quintessentone Wrote: U.S. says they paid too much and the EU says they paid more than the U.S. Who is right?
Numerically America has paid more as a single country. The percentage of GDP was handled in the wealthiest friend in pub pays 50-60-70% of the whole tab
Quite frankly the EU/UK should pay more BECAUSE they are the ones that are paranoid thinking Russia is threatening them LOL they don't threaten the US
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(03-06-2025, 12:21 PM)Oldcarpy2 Wrote: And no, you have not spent $350 billion. Another Trump lie.
It's $100 Billion from the USA.
And it's still too much.
It's Europes back yard.
It's Europe who is scared of Russian expansion.
Let Europe pay for Ukraines unending war.
We are done.
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(03-06-2025, 12:12 PM)quintessentone Wrote: Facts and realities don't seem to matter to some Americans...no surprise.
Facts and realities don't seem to matter to some Canadians, who want to soak America for every penny they can ... no surprise.
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(03-06-2025, 12:27 PM)putnam6 Wrote: Numerically America has paid more as a single country. The percentage of GDP was handled in the wealthiest friend in pub pays 50-60-70% of the whole tab
Quite frankly the EU/UK should pay more BECAUSE they are the ones that are paranoid thinking Russia is threatening them LOL they don't threaten the US
Nobody is arguing EU and non-EU countries with security issues should pay more. Does Trump now have a stake in security issues? With which countries now? Russia or EU?
The controversy is believing in Trump lies as to who has, to date, paid more, percentage-wise, to Ukraine.
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(03-06-2025, 12:27 PM)putnam6 Wrote: Numerically America has paid more as a single country.
YEP.
It's not our back yard.
We shouldn't pay one single penny more.
Europe is upset? They want Ukraine funded?
Then THEY can fund it.
Not our monkeys. Not our zoo.
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Isn't it wonderful how the US is alienating it's longstanding allies, shafting them whilst doing Putin's bidding, and siding with Russia, Iran and UK at the UN?
Reagan must be spinning in his grave.
One might even think, Trump may be a Russian asset? ?
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(03-06-2025, 12:21 PM)Oldcarpy2 Wrote: So % of GDP can just be waved away?
No. It's just common sense.
And no, you have not spent $350 billion. Another Trump lie.
As for the friend in the pub thing, that doesn't wash as you are ignoring little things like agreements the US entered into, etc.
Ive never said 350 billion but this is indeed getting tiresome it's your gig now regardless good luck old chap...
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(03-06-2025, 12:32 PM)Oldcarpy2 Wrote: Isn't it wonderful how the US is alienating it's longstanding allies, shafting them whilst doing Putin's bidding, and siding with Russia, Iran and UK at the UN?
Reagan must be spinning in his grave.
One might even think, Trump may be a Russian asset? ?
I flip flop on this one. If Russia is going down economically, which everything I see points to it, then the only way to avoid total catastrophe for Russia and pushing Russia to desperate measures, and to perhaps stop this war, is to promise Putin a way out and to give up his goal of 'freeing' all those other countries surrounding Iran. Give him the 20% territories in Ukraine, sign the mineral deal with both Russia and Ukraine, as these mineral deposits lie on both territories. I don't know, I just want this war to end.
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(03-06-2025, 12:32 PM)Oldcarpy2 Wrote: Isn't it wonderful how the US is alienating it's longstanding allies, shafting them ...
Isn't it wonderful how the longstanding so called allies are shafting the US ... trying to get America to pay hundreds of billions of dollars in an unending war in Europe when in fact it should be those so called allies who pay the bill for their own security and not us?
You sound like you are entitled to our money. You aren't. We aren't 'shafting' you. It's your backyard. YOU pay for it.
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No, but Trump did.
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