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Trump is in talks with Russia to end the war
(03-02-2025, 06:11 PM)putnam6 Wrote: The Polish Prime Minister gets it...

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BREAKING NEWS Polish PM Donald Tusk: “500 million Europeans are asking 300 million Americans to defend them against 140 million Russians.”
This really opens the door to explaining the need for a country to allow their people to be armed, but a lot of Euro types will start complaining about Americans 2nd Amendment rights.
(03-02-2025, 05:22 PM)Oldcarpy2 Wrote: But, I don't trust Trump, Musk, even less.

Dont think Musk has much to do with this between his other responsibilities and all

The Polish Prime Minister gets it...

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BREAKING NEWS Polish PM Donald Tusk: “500 million Europeans are asking 300 million Americans to defend them against 140 million Russians.”
His mind was not for rent to any god or government
Always hopeful yet discontent, knows changes aren't permanent
But change is 
Professor Neil Ellwood Peart 
 
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(02-02-2025, 04:40 PM)RickyD Wrote: I guess we will see how it goes...I know Putin has been very adamant that there will be no negotiations until Ukraine actually has elections again and votes in a head of state. Currently their head of state has suspended elections indefinitely...

And how many times have there been changes of leadership in Russia, who are accusing Zelensky of being a dictator, because he suspended the elections after being attacked.
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(02-05-2025, 02:16 PM)Oldcarpy2 Wrote: [quote="IdeomotorPrisoner" pid='27390' dateline='1738779557']

"The entire war was made up because Putin didn't get his Lukashenko-styled puppet into office. The candidate that wanted to unite philosophically back with Mother Russia lost the election to the one wanting to join NATO."

That's pretty much it.

Putin throws his toys out the pram and spits his dummy about NATO nukes on his borders but is fine with putting his in Belarus?

That icon of democracy and free and fair elections ?

The Russians haven't had teams of hackers and troll farms targeting the Ukraine for decades.

In this game, the Ukraine is a a piece that will be sacrificed to try and checkmate the opposition.

He wants to give the opposing King on the board nowhere to move except to surrender the game, and the game is between the US and allies on one side and Russia and allies on the other.
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Please tell me the EU's import of Russian fossil fuels doesn't cost more than thier aid to Ukraine IN 2024 FFS

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Interesting study: “EU imports of Russian fossil fuels in the third year of the invasion surpassed the EUR 18.7 bn of financial aid they sent to Ukraine in 2024.”
His mind was not for rent to any god or government
Always hopeful yet discontent, knows changes aren't permanent
But change is 
Professor Neil Ellwood Peart 
 
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Well looks like he’s ready to deal again. Twitter link
Quote:BREAKING: Ukrainian President Zelensky says he is ready to sign the minerals deal with US President Trump.

I know I’m stupid, eat crayons, and a minority but I think we should tell him to go pound sand. Same to NATO. Stop all money going to him. Hell, Stop all foreign kickback schemes… er. Aid. 

he also says he’s willing to step down as dictator in exchange for NATO membership. It’s in comments from link above.
(03-03-2025, 05:44 AM)pianopraze Wrote: Well looks like he’s ready to deal again. Twitter link

I know I’m stupid, eat crayons, and a minority but I think we should tell him to go pound sand. Same to NATO. Stop all money going to him. Hell, Stop all foreign kickback schemes… er. Aid. 

he also says he’s willing to step down as dictator in exchange for NATO membership. It’s in comments from link above.

That's not what he said according to your own source.

"When asked about these remarks, Zelensky dismissed the idea that he should step aside to smooth U.S.-Ukraine relations."
'l'll just check my Giveashitometer....Nope.  Nothing...
(03-02-2025, 04:30 PM)Oldcarpy2 Wrote: "Let's try leaving Uncle Sam out of your regional war altogether."

Like World Wars 1 and 2?

That would have ended badly for you if you'd adopted Trump's attitude then.

Thank goodness he wasn't in charge then.

This is 2025.
YOU have a regional war in YOUR backyard.
Time for YOU to spend YOUR money and send YOUR troops to YOUR backyard.
Not us anymore.
When UK/Europe helps us with our regional war of Mexican drug cartels taking over the South West, and South America invading our country by the tens of millions ... then we'll talk about us helping you out with your regional war on the other side of the planet.

I agree with Barack Obama in 2014. 
Russia invading Ukraine is a regional war and Europes to deal with.

I read an estimate yesterday that America has spent/sent up to 100 billion dollars on this regional war in Ukraine, and what we have got for it is nothing in the USA and a stalemate in Ukraine with Russia.  An unending war that can not be won by Ukraine without boots on the ground from UK/Europe/USA and massive money influx from UK/Europe and USA.  Which would mean it's a proxy World War III.
make russia small again
Don't be a useful idiot.  Deny Ignorance.
(03-03-2025, 05:44 AM)pianopraze Wrote: Well looks like he’s ready to deal again.

Last time he said that he got influenced by the american democrats to blow it up at the last minute.  
I wouldn't trust what he says (or what ANY of them involved say ... Putin, Zelenskyy, Trump, UK and EU leadership)

Putin can't be trusted.
Zelenskyy can't be trusted.
Europe and UK leadership can't be trusted - they are in it for themselves wanting the USA to pay for their own security.
Trump and American politicians, both Republican and Democrat, can't be trusted - playing political games while this major deal is in the works and europes security is at stake.
make russia small again
Don't be a useful idiot.  Deny Ignorance.
"An unending war that can not be won by Ukraine without boots on the ground from UK/Europe/USA and massive money influx from UK/Europe and USA. Which would mean it's a proxy World War III."

Nobody is talking about boots on the ground to win the war.

Only after a peace deal.
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