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Trump is in talks with Russia to end the war
(05-15-2025, 11:50 AM)pianopraze Wrote: I just hope it gets done.

No matter who attends.



[Image: 10may2025_Ukraine_map.jpg]
https://euromaidanpress.com/2025/05/02/f...y-arrived/
 Frontline report: Europe moves fast—for once—and floods Ukraine with shells
Brussels promised Kyiv 2 mln shells by 2026, but delivered two-thirds in just four months.Czechia leads global sourcing
Czechia, operating independently from the EU, launched its own artillery shell supply initiative in 2024 with NATO backing. The program delivered over 1.5 million shells to Ukraine in its first year. Czech officials expect to match or exceed that number in 2025, thanks to new contracts boosting investment and expanding production capacity.

While current production numbers are already significantly boosting the Ukrainian Armed Forces’ combat capabilities, smart expenditure will allow Ukraine to completely annihilate any larger Russian offensives planned for the summer campaign.
Southfront?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SouthFront

"SouthFront (sometimes written South Front) is a multilingual website registered in Russia and based in Crimea.[1] It has been accused of being an outlet for disinformation and propaganda under the control of the Russian government. For this reason, it has been sanctioned by the US Treasury and banned by social media platforms."

Other sources are available, but you didn't address my actual points?
'l'll just check my Giveashitometer....Nope.  Nothing...
https://euromaidanpress.com/2025/05/15/u...r-sectors/
 Ukraine retakes ground near Pokrovsk while Russians advance in four other sectors
Kyiv forces moved forward on two axeseast and southeast of Donetsk’s Pokrovsk on 13 May, ISW says. Deep State stated Nové fell to Russians alongside other Russian gains in eastern Ukraine.
(05-15-2025, 11:59 AM)Oldcarpy2 Wrote: Southfront?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SouthFront

"SouthFront (sometimes written South Front) is a multilingual website registered in Russia and based in Crimea.[1] It has been accused of being an outlet for disinformation and propaganda under the control of the Russian government. For this reason, it has been sanctioned by the US Treasury and banned by social media platforms."

Other sources are available, but you didn't address my actual points?

Sorry there was some quoting error.
Main thing is not really about the source of the map, its the first image result in duckduckgo for current front lines. take it or leave it,

 I also provided a Kiev sourced map link in my other post if you prefer the other side's maps :)

Summary is Russia is making gains and Ukraine is making less gains.  Reports from both sides show that Ukraine is slowly losing at this point.
(05-15-2025, 06:02 AM)putnam6 Wrote: Yeah, that's the first thought that crossed my mind, too. If so, it's such an amateurish attempt. There's no reason for Putin to be there, especially so early in the talks. I haven't seen where the front lines are. I'll take a temporary ceasefire, but yes, if he gets no financing, it's inevitable. 

The 7 times larger Russia wore them down just as most thought would happen.

So far it seems like the deal being offered to Russia is terrible for them and great for Ukraine. They want each side to back up 15km and have a DMZ then fly in NATO troops on the Ukraine side. All while keeping sanctions in place. Russia has the initiative and is pushing the frontlines on all sides and they want to pause that while rearming Ukraine and not lifting sanctions...why would Russia take this seriously?
(05-15-2025, 02:12 PM)RickyD Wrote: So far it seems like the deal being offered to Russia is terrible for them and great for Ukraine. They want each side to back up 15km and have a DMZ then fly in NATO troops on the Ukraine side. All while keeping sanctions in place. Russia has the initiative and is pushing the frontlines on all sides and they want to pause that while rearming Ukraine and not lifting sanctions...why would Russia take this seriously?

Do you have a source for this?

And, do you take Putin seriously?
'l'll just check my Giveashitometer....Nope.  Nothing...
(05-15-2025, 02:12 PM)RickyD Wrote: So far it seems like the deal being offered to Russia is terrible for them and great for Ukraine. They want each side to back up 15km and have a DMZ then fly in NATO troops on the Ukraine side. All while keeping sanctions in place. Russia has the initiative and is pushing the frontlines on all sides and they want to pause that while rearming Ukraine and not lifting sanctions...why would Russia take this seriously?

Yeah, thats not gonna happen, I mean I know you ask for the moon and the stars when negotiating. But damn this is why Putin wont attend talks neither side wants peace, and there's no impetus for the compromises needed
His mind was not for rent to any god or government
Always hopeful yet discontent, knows changes aren't permanent
But change is 
Professor Neil Ellwood Peart 
 
[Image: PEART-2744335652.gif]

 
(05-15-2025, 11:58 AM)sahgwa Wrote: [Image: https://denyignorance.com/uploader/image...ne_map.jpg]
https://euromaidanpress.com/2025/05/02/f...y-arrived/
 Frontline report: Europe moves fast—for once—and floods Ukraine with shells
Brussels promised Kyiv 2 mln shells by 2026, but delivered two-thirds in just four months.Czechia leads global sourcing
Czechia, operating independently from the EU, launched its own artillery shell supply initiative in 2024 with NATO backing. The program delivered over 1.5 million shells to Ukraine in its first year. Czech officials expect to match or exceed that number in 2025, thanks to new contracts boosting investment and expanding production capacity.

While current production numbers are already significantly boosting the Ukrainian Armed Forces’ combat capabilities, smart expenditure will allow Ukraine to completely annihilate any larger Russian offensives planned for the summer campaign.

Thanks for the map and the link... Just trying to plug in a 15km buffer zone on the zoomed-in map. I don't see Russia backing off the towns and infrastructure they have captured so far for a buffer. Like the nuclear power plant and Bakmhut, they may agree in less vital areas.
His mind was not for rent to any god or government
Always hopeful yet discontent, knows changes aren't permanent
But change is 
Professor Neil Ellwood Peart 
 
[Image: PEART-2744335652.gif]

 
Thats new to me. 
The whole thing was to try to avoid other troops on the ground. 
But I mean we know the EU guys love them some interventions. 
I am still surprised Kosovo is a country.
(05-15-2025, 03:03 PM)putnam6 Wrote: Thanks for the map and the link... Just trying to plug in a 15km buffer zone on the zoomed-in map. I don't see Russia backing off the towns and infrastructure they have captured so far for a buffer. Like the nuclear power plant and Bakmhut, they may agree in less vital areas.

Not gonna happen



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