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(04-28-2026, 11:19 AM)matafuchyou Wrote: This is what our POTUS said just after the shooting.
"We have to, we have to resolve our differences," Trump said. "I will say, you had Republicans, Democrats, independents, conservatives, liberals and progressives. Those words are interchangeable, perhaps, but maybe they're not. But yet everybody in that room, big crowd, record-setting crowd, there was a record-setting group of people, and there was a tremendous amount of love and coming together. I watched, I watched, and I was very, very impressed by that."
"I saw some Democrats, as we were leaving — and they were generally hostile — and last night they were waving to me. Politicians, congressmen, senators. They were waving and saying, 'Great going' and 'Hello,'" Trump said. "The place was just coming together. It was very nice to see."
Any rational person would see that as can we get along and not we are coming for your rights.
Trump says a lot of things.
What? Did he read something written for him and not go off script -- for a change?
Those are not his words -- have you read his all night rants?
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There are no calls to take away free speech. NONE. Like I stated earlier, as a white man if I call a person of color a slur or n-word I can go to jail. Jail. But is takes seconds to look online and find 1000's and 1000's of people calling the POTUS Hitler, a fascist, a rapist, a pedo...the list goes on and on. Calling for removal by force. Saying things and then stating you misinterpreted me. Jeffries comes to mind as well as many many other Democratic elected officials.
This is not something I am making up. Go online. Bluesky is nuts. So is Reddit. Tik-Tok. Late Night TV.
it is sick.
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(04-28-2026, 01:02 PM)ANNEE Wrote: Trump says a lot of things.
What? Did he read something written for him and not go off script -- for a change?
Those are not his words -- have you read his all night rants?
So when it is something you do not agree with it is not him?
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(04-28-2026, 12:38 PM)cherokeetroy Wrote: They will always come after our free speech and our weapons of self defense
Always --- guaranteed
And we should always be willing to fight to the death to keep both
I understand the fear. But I think that is being a bit melodramatic. I dont think WE'RE the focus.
I think he's going to try to leverage this for greater control over national media opinion. Broaden what is considered "hate speech and incitment of violence" possibly to anything overly negative, ask for too much, and then go get stuck in the courts after all the constitutional challenges to it.
Any media companies he may go after could use the same defense if their first amendment liberties are challenged. Everything the left said, all nasty elitest tones they used, has an archived analog on the right to use as evidence of double standards.
The checks and balances are still in place.
The constitution is still the law.
You'd have to enforce outright mindfucked hypocrisy in the largest glass house of stones ever to go after the vitriol of left-leaning media. Especially with EVERYONES track record so accessible.
Just...
1. "search internet video archive,"
2. "Find example of Right leaning media saying something the same or even worse"
3 . Have trust fascism hasn't won yet.
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(04-28-2026, 01:12 PM)IdeomotorPrisoner Wrote: I understand the fear. But I think that is being a bit melodramatic. I dont think WE'RE the focus.
I think he's going to try to leverage this for greater control over media opinion. Broaden what is considered "hate speech and incitment of violence" possibly to anything overly negative, ask for too much, and then go get stuck in the courts after all the constitutional challenges to it.
Any media companies he may go after could use the same defense if their first amendment liberties are challenged. Everything the left said, all nasty elitest tones they used, has an archived analog on the right to use as evidence of double standards.
The checks and balances are still in place.
The constitution is still the law.
You'd have to enforce outright mindfucked hypocrisy in the largest glass house of stones ever to go after the vitriol of left-leaning media as instigating anything with any integrity.
Just...
1. "search internet video archive,"
2. "Find example of Right leaning media saying something the same or even worse"
3 . Have trust fascism hasn't won yet.
It might be melodramatic
Then again, if you're paying attention to the trajectory of the US and the world in general with the buildup of tech, digitization & AI surveillance...maybe I'm just being a realist
When media gets reigned in, the effects trickle down to us
Trump's cronies are successfully buying up the majority of media which gives them a monopoly over information
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(04-28-2026, 01:04 PM)matafuchyou Wrote: So when it is something you do not agree with it is not him? 
Those are your words not mine.
Its clear to anyone who's realistic when Trump is ranting his own words -- and not what's written for him.
The only surprise is him staying on script.
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(04-28-2026, 09:55 AM)cherokeetroy Wrote: Conservatives want the focus to be on Democrat hate so they can exploit this crisis in order to suppress "hate" speech in America
But Trump is not special, he's not getting singled out or picked on
All Presidents serve under the threat of assassination, it comes with the territory
Maybe the reason why Trump has so many close calls compared to other Presidents is because his security is piss poor
Harte
"A wise man will enjoy the goods of which there is a plentiful supply, and of intellectual rubbish he will find an abundant diet, in our own age as in every other.“ Bertrand Russell
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(04-28-2026, 12:38 PM)cherokeetroy Wrote: They will always come after our free speech and our weapons of self defense
Always --- guaranteed
And we should always be willing to fight to the death to keep both
Truly ironic considering it has always been the Leftists that have attacked Free Speech.
Harte
"A wise man will enjoy the goods of which there is a plentiful supply, and of intellectual rubbish he will find an abundant diet, in our own age as in every other.“ Bertrand Russell
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(04-28-2026, 01:03 PM)matafuchyou Wrote: But is takes seconds to look online and find 1000's and 1000's of people calling the POTUS Hitler, a fascist, a rapist, a pedo...
I, myself, have accused Trump of protecting pedophiles in the government and corporate world
Do you think I should be censored from making this statement?
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(04-28-2026, 01:29 PM)Harte Wrote: Truly ironic considering it has always been the Leftists that have attacked Free Speech.
Harte
It is truly ironic, when MAGAs mask slips and reveals you're simply the left cosplaying as patriots
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