Release All Files! - Part 1

[ANNEE]

"“The finding that Ms. Carroll failed to prove that she was ‘raped’ within the meaning of the New York Penal Law does not mean that she failed to prove that Mr. Trump ‘raped’ her as many people commonly understand the word ‘rape,’” Kaplan wrote. “Indeed, as the evidence at trial recounted below makes clear, the jury found that Mr. Trump in fact did exactly that.”"

We're barely past the time when women were blamed for being raped.

This still is a patriarchal country.  

At least we're making some progressive changes.  
 

New York expands the legal definition of rape to include many forms of nonconsensual sexual contact
 
ALBANY, N.Y. (AP) — New York will expand its legal definition of rape to include various forms of nonconsensual sexual contact, under a bill signed into law by Gov. Kathy Hochul on Tuesday.
The state’s current limited definition was a factor in writer E. Jean Carroll’s sexual abuse and defamation case against former President Donald Trump. The jury in the federal civil trial rejected the writer’s claim last May that Trump had raped her in the 1990s, instead finding the former president responsible for a lesser degree of sexual abuse.
 
The current law defines rape as vaginal penetration by a penis. The new law broadens the definition to include nonconsensual anal, oral, and vaginal sexual contact. Highlighting Carroll’s case at a bill signing ceremony in Albany, the Democratic governor said the new definition will make it easier for rape victims to bring cases forward to prosecute perpetrators. The law will apply to sexual assaults committed on or after Sept. 1.

[quintessentone]

Still a civil suit with a much lower bar on achieving a verdict.  The only thing the case proves is the Jury was sympathetic.

Ivana's words, not mine.

"What is indisputable however, is that in a sworn deposition in 1989, Ivana Trump accused her estranged husband of raping her.

Ms Trump detailed her husband, enraged by a painful operation to remove a bald spot, violently assaulting and raping her.

Ms Trump alleged the now-president ripped fistfuls of hair from her scalp during the attack.
In 1993 she retracted the use of the word "rape".

"On one occasion during 1989, Mr. Trump and I had marital relations in which he behaved very differently toward me than he had during our marriage.

"As a woman, I felt violated, as the love and tenderness, which he normally exhibited towards me, was absent. I referred to this as a 'rape', but I do not want my words to be interpreted in a literal or criminal sense.""

Leaked Donald Trump tapes dredges up 1989 spousal rape accusation

This is the type of guy Trump is.

[quintessentone]

We're barely past the time when women were blamed for being raped.

This still is a patriarchal country.  

At least we're making some progressive changes.  

That's progress, but what should really matter is how women define what is to be considered as rape or not as rape. Everyone may handle the same trauma differently and the male lawmakers should not be the ones determining what level of what type of sexual assault is to be defined into what level of trauma, seriousness, or punishment.

[FlyersFan]

It was a money grab by a delusional woman that fantasized about rape on a daily basis.

Carroll is a whackjob.   

Side note .... Her poor cat ... naming it Vagina ... I can see her running around the house calling it 'come Vagina, where's my pussy, I want to pet you'.

And she couldn't remember details of the alleged rape ... not when it was, not what she was wearing ... and zero evidence.   

I think Trump is hiding something with the Epstein files .... but he got totally screwed over with the Carroll "rape" thing.  The only reason they found him guilty on this was ... 'get Trump'.

[FlyersFan]

This still is a patriarchal country.  

No we are not.

[Oldcarpy2]

This thread has been derailed by the same folk who turned ATS into the nasty mess that it ended up as so as I don't want them to do that to DI I will just ignore them and let them show themselves for what they are.

Happy New Year everyone...

[quintessentone]

Carroll is a whackjob.   

Side note .... Her poor cat ... naming it Vagina ... I can see her running around the house calling it 'come Vagina, where's my pussy, I want to pet you'.

And she couldn't remember details of the alleged rape ... not when it was, not what she was wearing ... and zero evidence.   

I think Trump is hiding something with the Epstein files .... but he got totally screwed over with the Carroll "rape" thing.  The only reason they found him guilty on this was ... 'get Trump'.

She remembered enough for him to be convicted as a sexual abuser, plus there were two witnesses.

Trump is hiding something with the Epstein files for sure, and with his record of sexual abuse and rape allegations, ever think this is what he needs to hide?

[FlyersFan]

She remembered enough for him to be convicted as a sexual abuser, plus there were two witnesses.

She didn't remember anything ... no details ... not even what she was supposedly wearing.    There was no evidence and if it had been anyone else accused it would have been thrown out.

The two  'witnesses' were not witnesses to the alleged event.    All they did was say that Carroll told them about the alleged rape.   That's not a 'witness' to the events.   That's just two people repeating the lie that she told them.   

Trump is up to his eyeballs in the Epstein thing, but he got screwed by Carroll and a 'get Trump' jury.

[RazorV66]

Carroll is a whackjob.   

Side note .... Her poor cat ... naming it Vagina ... I can see her running around the house calling it 'come Vagina, where's my pussy, I want to pet you'.

And she couldn't remember details of the alleged rape ... not when it was, not what she was wearing ... and zero evidence.   

I think Trump is hiding something with the Epstein files .... but he got totally screwed over with the Carroll "rape" thing.  The only reason they found him guilty on this was ... 'get Trump'.

I don't think he is hiding anything.

No matter how the deranged Libs try to frame it, Biden and his frothing at the mouth, Trump hating goons had the files.

Someone would have to be the dumbest asshole in the world to think they wouldn't fry Trump's ass if he was guilty and the files proved it.

It's just not possible, they hate Trump as much as these clowns here at DI do.

Obama and his goons had the files before Biden did, does anyone really think he wouldn't have used it to help Hillary win?

These idiots think Trump is guilty without a doubt in the files but they could only come up some fake Russian collusion bullshit??

100% THEY WOULD HAVE USED THE FILES AGAINST TRUMP IF HIS GUILT WAS PROVEN.

Critical thinking is not their specialty.

[quintessentone]

She didn't remember anything ... no details ... not even what she was supposedly wearing.    There was no evidence and if it had been anyone else accused it would have been thrown out.

The two  'witnesses' were not witnesses to the alleged event.    All they did was say that Carroll told them about the alleged rape.   That's not a 'witness' to the events.   That's just two people repeating the lie that she told them.   

Trump is up to his eyeballs in the Epstein thing, but he got screwed by Carroll and a 'get Trump' jury.

Point being he is a convicted sexual abuser, no getting away from that fact. Them along came Stormy.