Release All Files! - Part 1

[Oldcarpy2]

The whole Epstein case in regards to Trump has the same tactics as flat earth.

I ask for something, you are like.  “It’s all over the internet.”  

This more and more reminds me of the FE argument the sun supposedly can’t be 93 million miles away from the earth.  Then if you ask the flat earther how far is the sun from earth, they give some vague notion.  It makes it harder in their minds to be “debunk”.  If they give an actual distance, easy to debunk.  The Trump case is that this in this regulars.  You have people claiming Trump is guilty!  Then you ask when, where, who, what evidence.  Then they go all vague assurances.  Better to use vague hard to pin down innuendo to character assassinate than actual hard facts that can be debunked.


Added. Where law makers using thins as political theatre know certain things could never be fully released because it deals with child porn.  Then they can in their minds make easy false assurances that things are redacted to “protect Trump.”  Where if they think something is being covered up.  They can still talk to the victims that are alive and past prosecutors.

Didn't read the Forbes article I posted?

I have never claimed that Trump is guilty but if you keep on with these falsehoods I will leave you to it.

Happy New Year.

[Vermilion]

Well, thank you for making DI just like what ATS became.

Censorship?  Like massive redactions with no reasons given?

Which, by law, is required....

No reasons given?

Here are a few….

Protection of victims’ personally identifiable information and privacy.

Child sexual abuse materials.

Risk to ongoing investigations or prosecutions.

Images of death, physical abuse, or injury.

National defense or foreign policy secrets.

Legal privileges. Namely the 5th and 6th amendments.

Protection of law enforcement and third parties.

[Kurokage]

Well as of Friday, Trump is still internet ranting, claiming the Epstein files are a hoax! Talk about signs of dementia!!  Did his team not update on the on going finds?? Maybe it's going to be his defence when they come for him!!

https://www.msn.com/en-nz/news/other/tru...ngNewsSerp

President Donald Trump lashed out over the ongoing release of the Jeffrey Epstein sex trafficking case files, calling the whole thing a Democratic hoax in a Truth Social post on Friday evening — despite the fact that he signed the Epstein Files Transparency Act into law, and that every Republican in Congress except for one voted for it.

"President Trump is once again referring to the Epstein files matter as a Democratic hoax," wrote Yashar Ali of HuffPost. "The reason the Epstein files matter is such a major issue is because his top allies made it so during the campaign and promised that, if he won, the files would be released. Some of the people who voted for him get very angry when he calls it a hoax. Also, it’s worth noting this would have wrapped up long ago had his administration not repeatedly promised things and then walked them back."

[Maxmars]

Just my thoughts... I am thinking about it...

Namely, suggesting this thread be closed for few days... maybe opening back up on January 1st 2026....
(imagine the saved up angst?)

I have a theory...

Since some members impetus is to speak to each other - about each other - instead of the topic...
maybe you'll start actually PMing each other, and learn to speak without the theatrical jabs that are polluting the thread, making it difficult for the topic to unravel.

Then, if we open it up later... we might be privileged to see what you can resolve without the school-yard bullying crap.

I don't know if other Mods will exactly be keen to back me up...
but at some point in the record, someone has to push for the conversation itself to continue...
... and that falls to me at the moment.

Learn some words that need no 'flavoring,' like, "I disagree."
(Maybe leave out the "with you," because you will want to 'explain' "people like you" in full bias.)

Anything short of polite is less than adequate in most cases... most. 
Unless you continuously 'set it up' - which may be another problem entirely.

This is me being nice... for now.

[andy06shake]

No reasons given?

Here are a few….

Protection of victims’ personally identifiable information and privacy.

Child sexual abuse materials.

Risk to ongoing investigations or prosecutions.

Images of death, physical abuse, or injury.

National defense or foreign policy secrets.

Legal privileges. Namely the 5th and 6th amendments.

Protection of law enforcement and third parties.

All that for a Democrat hoax?

"The lady doth protest too much" 

[Kurokage]

No reasons given?

Here are a few….

Protection of victims’ personally identifiable information and privacy.

Well, they aren't doing a very good job on that one, as far as I can tell??

https://abcnews.go.com/US/epsteins-alleg...=128612219

"Instead, the public received a fraction of the files, and what we received was riddled with abnormal and extreme redactions with no explanation," a group of 19 women, including two Jane Does, said in a statement released on Monday. "At the same time, numerous victim identities were left unredacted, causing real and immediate harm."

http://Naked images of Epstein women acc...y released

 
Young women, some of them undressed, appear in videos contained in the Epstein files, signalling that the justice department failed to shield the identities of potential victims.
Thousands of photographs and files from federal investigations into Jeffrey Epstein were published on Friday after Donald Trump bowed to pressure from within his own party to release the documents.
Bill Clinton, the former president, features prominently in various photographs, including one of him swimming with Ghislaine Maxwell. Andrew Mountbatten-Windsor is also in one photograph.
But while the majority of the documents were heavily redacted, images of several girls were not blurred in footage released by the department of justice, despite the pictures being covered up in previous releases.
In one video, which appears to show an officer recording a walk-through of Epstein’s Florida home, images on the walls show young women who can clearly be seen with their faces unobscured.
 

http://Epstein Survivors Believe DOJ Is ...s: Lawyers

 
Several Jeffrey Epstein survivors experienced “widespread panic” after the House Oversight Committee released 20,000 files earlier this month without redacting their names, prompting some to believe that the Justice Department is “intentionally” failing to protect their privacy, according to a Wednesday court filing.
In a letter to Judge Richard Berman this week, Bradley Edwards and Brittany Henderson, lawyers who have represented hundreds of Epstein victims, said they were contacted by survivors whose identities were exposed in the Nov. 12 disclosure of files.
 

Maybe they're spending the majority of their time only looking for certain peoples names?? 

[Oldcarpy2]

No reasons given?

Here are a few….

Protection of victims’ personally identifiable information and privacy.

Child sexual abuse materials.

Risk to ongoing investigations or prosecutions.

Images of death, physical abuse, or injury.

National defense or foreign policy secrets.

Legal privileges. Namely the 5th and 6th amendments.

Protection of law enforcement and third parties.

Those are general reasons, no specific as required by law

Still, they don't exist and it was all a Democrat hoax?

Right?

[KrustyKrab]

Well as of Friday, Trump is still internet ranting, claiming the Epstein files are a hoax! Talk about signs of dementia!!  Did his team not update on the on going finds?? Maybe it's going to be his defence when they come for him!!

https://www.msn.com/en-nz/news/other/tru...ngNewsSerp

Well at this point it is kind of a hoax.  There’s been nothing disclosed that proves Trump had anything to do with Epstein’s trafficking operation except speculation from the rabid left that hate Trump.   

They’ve made it perfectly clear that they don’t give two shits about these women or the people that actually committed the crimes.   Their only objective is to paint Trump in a bad light in the public eye, that’s the sole purpose of this charade, get Trump.   There was enough info out there
before the talk of releasing the files, that Trump was not involved in trafficking with Epstein.  Some of you seem to forget that Trump was willing to tell them everything he knew about Epstein and they refused his testimony.   You don’t do that if you’re guilty of the very crimes they’re trying to convict Epstein of.  

So for Trump, it is a hoax….once again.

[andy06shake]

Well at this point it is kind of a hoax.  There’s been nothing disclosed that proves Trump had anything to do with Epstein’s trafficking operation except speculation from the rabid left that hate Trump.   

They’ve made it perfectly clear that they don’t give two shits about these women or the people that actually committed the crimes.   Their only objective is to paint Trump in a bad light in the public eye, that’s the sole purpose of this charade, get Trump.   There was enough info out there
before the talk of releasing the files, that Trump was not involved in trafficking with Epstein.  Some of you seem to forget that Trump was willing to tell them everything he knew about Epstein and they refused his testimony.   You don’t do that if you’re guilty of the very crimes they’re trying to convict Epstein of.  

So for Trump, it is a hoax….once again.

The more he screams hoax.

The more he makes it become real.

He's building his own bonfire.

And the only way to put out the flames, imaginary or otherwise.

That would be transparency. 

Imho, that's not what's taken place thus far.

Or anything reminiscent of the sorts....

[Vermilion]

Well as of Friday, Trump is still internet ranting, claiming the Epstein files are a hoax! Talk about signs of dementia!!  Did his team not update on the on going finds?? Maybe it's going to be his defence when they come for him!!

https://www.msn.com/en-nz/news/other/tru...ngNewsSerp

You continue to falsely define the Democrats hoax, which is no doubt by design since it’s in many of your posts.

They claim Epstein had a pedo blackmail ring full of co-conspirators which Trump (and his “friends”) was a party to and is trying to cover it up.
That’s the Democrat hoax.
It’s a hoax.