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12-27-2025, 12:53 PM
This post was last modified: 12-27-2025, 12:58 PM by WallFlowerActive. 
(12-27-2025, 12:01 PM)Oldcarpy2 Wrote: We don't know until we might have full transparency.
What do you expect from a case mostly concerning child porn and exploitation with actual victims.
Added. What does “full transparency” look like in this situation. And not break laws.
Many of the victims and prosecutors that worked the Epstein cases from states to federal are still alive. Why are the current legislatures not trying to get as many of their depositions as possible. Because this is about political theatre, and not about justice for victims.
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(12-27-2025, 12:45 PM)WallFlowerActive Wrote: How is stating simple facts propaganda. Pointing out the usual suspects still being blinded by context because of TDS.
Again. If there is actual evidence showing Trump was involved in actual criminal activity with Epstein, let Trump hang. But that would still put the people of the Biden administration and past prosecutors like Comey’s daughter where Comey was a past director of the FBI on the spot.
The Epstein file law was more from TDS than anything sensible. With little regards for the actual victims. If the law makers were serious, the Epstein law would have established: One, special oversight or a committee over the document release. Two. Gave as much immunity and whistle blower powers to past Epstein prosecutors as possible. Three. Made allowed to get as many depositions from Epstein victims like we have seen in senate hearings. Four. Made a actual budget to staff up make a serious attempt at timelines.
I don’t like any politician. And this thing other than the real suffering of victims is a farce and political theatrics.
I'm"The usual suspects '?!!!
Irony level on 11...
'l'll just check my Giveashitometer....Nope. Nothing...
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(12-27-2025, 12:45 PM)WallFlowerActive Wrote: How is stating simple facts propaganda. Pointing out the usual suspects still being blinded by context because of TDS.
Again. If there is actual evidence showing Trump was involved in actual criminal activity with Epstein, let Trump hang. But that would still put the people of the Biden administration and past prosecutors like Comey’s daughter where Comey was a past director of the FBI on the spot.
The Epstein file law was more from TDS than anything sensible. With little regards for the actual victims. If the law makers were serious, the Epstein law would have established: One, special oversight or a committee over the document release. Two. Gave as much immunity and whistle blower powers to past Epstein prosecutors as possible. Three. Made allowed to get as many depositions from Epstein victims like we have seen in senate hearings. Four. Made a actual budget to staff up make a serious attempt at timelines.
I don’t like any politician. And this thing other than the real suffering of victims is a farce and political theatrics.
Oh no that's probably right and all. I meant the Flat Earth slander. Never mind, I'm just being contrary; we'll debate it another time on another thread when I decided to believe Flat Earth for a day. Although I did see some interesting Antarctica propaganda today.
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(12-27-2025, 12:53 PM)Oldcarpy2 Wrote: I'm"The usual suspects '?!!!
Irony level on 11... 
Still doesn’t answer the quest.
(12-27-2025, 11:18 AM)Oldcarpy2 Wrote: It's all over the Internet. The DOJ used the non premium version of Adobe for all the redactions.
And I can cite you sources that claim to prove the earth is flat on the “internet”
And what documents are those. Do you have an example of actual DOJ redactions being broken instead of people confusing the documents from the US Virgin Island civil suit.
You are no better than a flat earther at times. Sorry.
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12-27-2025, 01:00 PM
This post was last modified: 12-27-2025, 01:22 PM by cherokeetroy. 
(12-27-2025, 12:48 PM)WallFlowerActive Wrote: At least I’m not like you and use known fake pictures and where you try to hide the history of that image. You have no credibility.
Added. Where I try to understand full context.
You act as though I created that image, myself to use with malicious intent
As you clearly saw in my screenshot, I fact checked the image
I simply didn't take the extreme measure of fact checking the fact checker because...
well, I'm not a Trump worshipper
As far as having no credibility, did you bother fact checking the rest of my post?
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(12-27-2025, 12:46 PM)cherokeetroy Wrote: Isn't it kinda funny how all the sudden, MAGA is accusing the members who criticize Trump of being paid shills or "deep state agents"
Is that the modern version of screaming Heretic in the hope of getting anti-Trump accounts suspended?
Whatever it takes to silence the dissenting voice, huh..
The left (socialists, commies, anti-America, TDS patients) is the party of censorship.
You might want to start paying attention.
People like myself get a kick out of watching their horrible takes, thoughtless “logic”, and unfettered projection of ignorance.
It’s similar to being at the zoo and watching monkeys eat their own feces.
Lefties swallowing these hoaxes which were squeezed out of their own anuses and asking for more.
Keep speaking, please.
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(12-27-2025, 12:56 PM)WallFlowerActive Wrote: Still doesn’t answer the quest.
And I can cite you sources that claim to prove the earth is flat on the “internet”
And what documents are those. Do you have an example of actual DOJ redactions being broken instead of people confusing just the documents from the US Virgin Island civil suit.
You are no better than a flat earther at times. Sorry.
Flat earther?
Sorry, but trying to engage you in reasonable discussion seems pointless. Just like it was on ATS....
'l'll just check my Giveashitometer....Nope. Nothing...
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(12-27-2025, 01:01 PM)Vermilion Wrote: The left (socialists, commies, anti-America, TDS patients) is the party of censorship.
You might want to start paying attention.
People like myself get a kick out of watching their horrible takes, thoughtless “logic”, and unfettered projection of ignorance.
It’s similar to being at the zoo and watching monkeys eat their own feces.
Lefties swallowing these hoaxes which were squeezed out of their own anuses and asking for more.
Keep speaking, please.

Well, thank you for making DI just like what ATS became.
Censorship? Like massive redactions with no reasons given?
Which, by law, is required....
'l'll just check my Giveashitometer....Nope. Nothing...
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I don't think they even know how to access or link to the source documents.
So asking is useless.
Perhaps they'll find some pre-chewed summary article to link to, when the narrative winds change.
But probably not.
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12-27-2025, 01:11 PM
This post was last modified: 12-27-2025, 01:16 PM by WallFlowerActive. 
(12-27-2025, 01:01 PM)Oldcarpy2 Wrote: Flat earther? 
Sorry, but trying to engage you in reasonable discussion seems pointless. Just like it was on ATS....
The whole Epstein case in regards to Trump has the same tactics as flat earth.
I ask for something, you are like. “It’s all over the internet.”
This more and more reminds me of the FE argument the sun supposedly can’t be 93 million miles away from the earth. Then if you ask the flat earther how far is the sun from earth, they give some vague notion. It makes it harder in their minds to be “debunk”. If they give an actual distance, easy to debunk. The Trump case is that this in this regulars. You have people claiming Trump is guilty! Then you ask when, where, who, what evidence. Then they go all vague assurances. Better to use vague hard to pin down innuendo to character assassinate than actual hard facts that can be debunked.
Added. Where law makers using this as political theatre knew certain things could never be fully released because it deals with child porn. Then they can in their minds make easy false assurances that things are redacted to “protect Trump.” Where if they think something is being covered up. They can still talk to the victims that are alive and past prosecutors.
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