Release All Files! - Part 1

[Vermilion]

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Why would two Trump haters want to get rid of Bondi if she’s doing such a horrible job?

[Oldcarpy2]

Why would two Trump haters want to get rid of Bondi if she’s doing such a horrible job?

Because she is about to be held to account for failing to serve the American people?

And, she's a rubbish Trump sycophant?

Not up to the job?

I don't hate Trump.  I despise him, but you seem to 'hate" Liberals.

[Vermilion]

Because she is about to be held to account for failing to serve the American people?

And, she's a rubbish Trump sycophant?

Not up to the job?

I don't hate Trump.  I despise him, but you seem to 'hate" Liberals.

No, that doesn’t make any sense.

The never trumpers, like Khanna and Massie here, have done everything to thwart and hinder Trump by any means necessary.
If Bondi is such a garbage AG who is ruining Trumps agenda, the smart correct play would be to let her keep undermining Trumps success with her failures.

"Never interrupt your enemy when he is making a mistake”- Yosemite Sam

[rickymouse]

If the administration of the whitehouse was Democrat, and this release was in effect, there would be nothing released on Clinton or any big donator to the democrat party. 

Look at what the Democrats are picking to release, everything they were releasing initially to the public had something to do with Trump and anyone who was a Republican supporter.  They did show pictures of Clinton, but none with girls in them.

Both parties will cover things up as much as they can.  Epstein had clients or customers associated with a lot of politicians on both sides of the political divide. 

I basically figured that this would be a political tool to discredit the other party on both sides, face it, this is just epstein, I would guess there are multiple providers of services like this out there that target politicians on both sides.  Remember, Big businesses also have lobbyists  who wine and dine and provide certain services to politicians.  I bet some of them provide entertainment like Epstein did to some of the politicians. Look at the Democrat party, not just the Republicans, what fuels the power that Pelosi has over the politicians, do they set the politicians up so they can keep them in line to vote on things that are not good for the people that voted for them?  No matter what, a politician should be representing all of the people in their district, even the ones that did not vote for them.  this pushing party lines instead of supporting the middle is crazy bad in my opinion.  We need to have politicians that support the honest hard working people of the country, not the criminals and people who don't want to contribute to society.  Yes, some people cannot work, but there are lots of freeloaders who don't want to work, who feel they are entitled to benefits without contributing to our society.  It is way worse now than it was fifty years ago.

We need to start creating jobs to supply work for everyone, jobs that make things we need in society.  Consumer based societies fail, we need to produce the things we need, not make money off imports and selling things others make in other countries.  Sure, we have to import some things...like coffee and sugar and things we cannot grow here, but we need to be mostly self supporting as a country.

Ok, enough griping already rickymouse....I think I have a little bit of two personalities in me, I have to keep reminding myself to shut up.

[Oldcarpy2]

No, that doesn’t make any sense.

The never trumpers, like Khanna and Massie here, have done everything to thwart and hinder Trump by any means necessary.
If Bondi is such a garbage AG who is ruining Trumps agenda, the smart correct play would be to let her keep undermining Trumps success with her failures.

"Never interrupt your enemy when he is making a mistake”- Yosemite Sam

Maybe. But the lawyer in me wants her gone.

Cos she is rubbish.

[cherokeetroy]

Why would two Trump haters want to get rid of Bondi if she’s doing such a horrible job?

There is pressure on Massie and Khanna to follow through with their promises

If they fail, they'll be exposed as perpetrating the coverup along with everyone else

[quintessentone]

No, that doesn’t make any sense.

The never trumpers, like Khanna and Massie here, have done everything to thwart and hinder Trump by any means necessary.
If Bondi is such a garbage AG who is ruining Trumps agenda, the smart correct play would be to let her keep undermining Trumps success with her failures.

"Never interrupt your enemy when he is making a mistake”- Yosemite Sam

Bondi is Trump's puppet who will take the fall and go to prison, like Michael Cohen did, that is how it works, that is how it is understood. Everything that is being done is ordered by Trump, it is Trump who needs to be held accountable, edit: and I suppose all those that knew what they were getting into in the first place. FAFO

[andy06shake]

You could make the same argument that Maxwell was a victim too.
Her and Maxwell both knew what they’re doing despite the differences in motivation.
I see no difference in guilt just because one of them did it for money and the other was just a sick sex fiend.
Neither should get a free pass and I’m content with the outcomes of both.

Problem being your comparison collapses under basic scrutiny.

Maxwell was a wealthy, powerful adult who helped design, enforce, and carry out the will of her sick, perverted boss.

The young girls were groomed as minors into dependency and fear.

And she profited from their misery. 

Somewhat of a huge difference that matters.

And pretending motivation doesn't matter is simply lazy.

Power always matters.

Accountability isn't binary.

And recognising coercion isn't a "free pass." 

It's how responsibility actually works.

You keep flattening everything because it lets you feel morally tough while ignoring reality.

Equating predators with people shaped by abuse isn't principled, it's pathetic and cruel.

[Vermilion]

There is pressure on Massie and Khanna to follow through with their promises

If they fail, they'll be exposed as perpetrating the coverup along with everyone else

No, that doesn’t make any sense either.

Massie said he’d name names on the house floor, which he hasn’t done.
That shows he’s not afraid of making bogus promises.
He also already held a couple of virtue signaling press conferences with the victims, so his position on the matter is already solidified (victims advocate justice warrior Spartacus) without having to take extra steps in the wrong direction.(impeaching a Trump AG who is sabotaging her bosses wins)

Massie and Khanna taking a piece off of Trump’s chess board who is doing more for them than for Trump is a horrible move no politician would purposely take.

Being the eternal optimist, I think you’re smart enough to eventually figure out why they really want her gone.

[Vermilion]

Problem being your comparison collapses under basic scrutiny.

Maxwell was a wealthy, powerful adult who helped design, enforce, and carry out the will of her sick, perverted boss.

The young girls were groomed as minors into dependency and fear.

And she profited from their misery. 

Somewhat of a huge difference that matters.

And pretending motivation doesn't matter is simply lazy.

Power always matters.

Accountability isn't binary.

And recognising coercion isn't a "free pass." 

It's how responsibility actually works.

You keep flattening everything because it lets you feel morally tough while ignoring reality.

Equating predators with people shaped by abuse isn't principled, it's pathetic and cruel.

Maxwell didn’t work for Epstein, she is independently wealthy (family money).
How do you know Maxwell’s spook dad didn’t subject her to physical and mental abuse?
She could have had worse things happen to her than Virginia, which shaped her abuse enough to compel her to seek out sexual escapades.

You might have an argument if Virginia was recruiting those girls to be trafficked by Epstein under threat, but it was for money.
Each and every time for money to the tune of hundreds of times.
All for money.

Maxwell didn’t earn a dime.
Devils advocate.