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(02-04-2025, 06:55 PM)KKLoco Wrote: The thought of this person purposely doing this is ridiculous. If you do a simple search on this girl, she liked selfies A LOT. Typical, for her self absorbed age group. She was probably doing one of these at the time:
[Image: https://i.imgur.com/qyoAK5G.jpeg]
She's always laughing and giggling in all her pics. Apparently, she didn't take life serious enough....
Is that an original sin type thing?
Did a snake wrapped aroud the flight yoke tell her to do it?
I've read nothing but great things about her and her service.
Quote:Captain Bilal Kordab, an Army officer who recruited Lobach to the North Carolina National Guard while the latter attended the University of North Carolina-Chapel Hill, told CNN that Lobach "was not handed anything. She was more than qualified for anything that she was able to accomplish."
It seems like everyone in that cockpit may have tragically misidentified the wrong aircraft in crowded airspace. Maybe a Blackhawk pitching forward, obscures the view of a descending jet off to your left?
The more I read, the more it reminds me of this crash.
Only instead of being obscured below them and the plane descending on to the smaller aircraft, the smaller craft was angled to where they couldn't see the jet descending into their path from the left.
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(02-04-2025, 06:55 PM)KKLoco Wrote: The thought of this person purposely doing this is ridiculous. If you do a simple search on this girl, she liked selfies A LOT. Typical, for her self absorbed age group. She was probably doing one of these at the time:
[Image: https://i.imgur.com/qyoAK5G.jpeg]
She's always laughing and giggling in all her pics. Apparently, she didn't take life serious enough....
According to the data,she was not in control or on the stick at the time.
Also the TOWER having them at 200 ft when they were at 350 seems intentional. could the tower had misled the pilots into a crash?
Remember remember the 5th of november,the gunpowder treason and plot!
I see no reason that gunpowder treason should ever be forgot!
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(02-04-2025, 09:57 PM)Zaphod58 Wrote: They have radio earmuffs in them. They provide better protection than older helmets. It shifts the head forward in the helmet to improve visibility, without NVGs, and has impact protection to reduce head injuries. I appreciate the explanation...I knew there had to be one. I can't unsee spaceballs now though lol!
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(02-04-2025, 10:57 PM)yuppa Wrote: According to the data,she was not in control or on the stick at the time.
Also the TOWER having them at 200 ft when they were at 350 seems intentional. could the tower had misled the pilots into a crash?
The tower has nothing to do with their altitude, that's controlled by the pilots. The PRIMARY RADAR data appeared to show them at 200 feet, but radar isn't super accurate depending on range and radar system in use.
Logic is dead. Long live BS.
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(02-04-2025, 11:06 PM)Zaphod58 Wrote: The tower has nothing to do with their altitude, that's controlled by the pilots. The PRIMARY RADAR data appeared to show them at 200 feet, but radar isn't super accurate depending on range and radar system in use.
Has the CSMU been read yet? I know last I saw you were saying they had to wait for it to dry before it could be read. Surely its been dry for a couple of days now...have they read it but not released it or neither?
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I'm going to drift a moment to add something that perhaps shouldn't need saying.
In our exploration of this topic, it would best behoove us not to cast aspersions upon people we really can't know except through the "eyes" of others.
These are people...
I can't deny it strikes me as a "goofy fun" picture!
An ironic choice for the juxtaposed tragedy they suffered... no?
(PS - This is no one's fault - apologies to the author if that reads that way. We have what we have to share... we all must have our filters...)
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(02-04-2025, 11:48 PM)RickyD Wrote: Has the CSMU been read yet? I know last I saw you were saying they had to wait for it to dry before it could be read. Surely its been dry for a couple of days now...have they read it but not released it or neither?
They’ve read it, but the CSMU doesn’t have time stamps, so they’re having to match events with the CVR and tower tapes to line everything up. That’s going to take a few days to do. The CVR team is still transcribing the CRJ recorder as well.
Logic is dead. Long live BS.
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(02-05-2025, 05:45 AM)Zaphod58 Wrote: They’ve read it, but the CSMU doesn’t have time stamps, so they’re having to match events with the CVR and tower tapes to line everything up. That’s going to take a few days to do. The CVR team is still transcribing the CRJ recorder as well.
Thats pretty wild...I would figure a log file with data and time stamps from each of the instruments. With the CVR having a low resolution I would assume lining things up can only be but so accurate...hopefully accurate enough to figure out what happened here.
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(02-05-2025, 05:48 PM)RickyD Wrote: Thats pretty wild...I would figure a log file with data and time stamps from each of the instruments. With the CVR having a low resolution I would assume lining things up can only be but so accurate...hopefully accurate enough to figure out what happened here.
With the tower tapes and the CVR they can get a pretty accurate time stamp.
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02-05-2025, 07:23 PM
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(02-04-2025, 10:13 PM)IdeomotorPrisoner Wrote: Is that an original sin type thing?
Did a snake wrapped aroud the flight yoke tell her to do it?
I've read nothing but great things about her and her service.
It seems like everyone in that cockpit may have tragically misidentified the wrong aircraft in crowded airspace. Maybe a Blackhawk pitching forward, obscures the view of a descending jet off to your left?
The more I read, the more it reminds me of this crash.
Only instead of being obscured below them and the plane descending on to the smaller aircraft, the smaller craft was angled to where they couldn't see the jet descending into their path from the left.
I'm not claiming to know exactly what happened here. However, if you watch the videos of the collision, people clearly weren't paying attention. I don't believe this was a suicide. The individuals in the Blackhawk got time warped, or they weren't paying attention -- and 67 people died due to that.
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