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Mass shooting LDS church Grand Blanc, Michigan, is gunman down.Church on fire
(09-28-2025, 10:24 PM)chr0naut Wrote: Only Mormons consider works such as the Book of Mormon, the Pearl of Great Price, and Doctrines an Covenants to be scripture. Similarly, only Mormons give regard to what Joseph Smith propounded.

Criticism of Mormon sacred texts - Wikipedia

This new tangent of yours has nothing to do with your statement that Mormons/LDS are not Christians.  Still wrong, but please keep circling the wagons for our amusement.
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All easily verifiable at the link below, FWIW

https://www.fec.gov/data/receipts/?commi...=processed


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The suspect in the Mormon Church mass shooting in Michigan, Thomas Jacob Sanford and his family, appear to be MAGA and major Charlie Kirk supporters #Mormon #Michiganchurch

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After reviewing FEC-related reports and news sources, the donation list in the image is tied to a Thomas J Sanford linked to VA, WI, and ID—different states from the Michigan suspect, Thomas Jacob Sanford. Claims of the shooter's Democratic donations remain unverified, while evidence shows a Trump sign at his home.
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But change is 
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(09-29-2025, 08:42 AM)putnam6 Wrote: All easily verifiable at the link below, FWIW

https://www.fec.gov/data/receipts/?commi...=processed


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There is opposite reporting on this shooter being MAGA and having a Trump/Vance sign on the front lawn of his house. Does political party matter? Obviously very much so for some here on DI so as to propagandize.

Michigan LDS shooter was decorated war veteran & MAGA fanatic
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(09-28-2025, 01:35 PM)RazorV66 Wrote: My apologies, that apparently is the shooters truck.

Here is a link to other photos showing the same truck

https://www.mlive.com/news/flint/2025/09...-down.html


Reports are saying the shooter is a Iraq war veteran corroborated by the Iraq Veteran license plate on the truck in the photos.
He had a history of PTSD and mental illness.

Only a vile person would attack a church.

I find it ironic that the shooter in NC was also a combat veteran.  It's like they were all activated at the same time. tinfoil hat on.  
Implants...
(09-29-2025, 08:49 AM)quintessentone Wrote: There is opposite reporting on this shooter being MAGA and having a Trump/Vance sign on the front lawn of his house. Does political party matter? Obviously very much so for some here on DI so as to propagandize.

Michigan LDS shooter was decorated war veteran & MAGA fanatic

LOL 

I wasn't finished posting, just pulling articles germane to the thread

got pulled away by a phone call....

thus the FWIW 

I agree we're getting conflicting reports. I can easily see he has MAGA leanings just by a few of his yard signs.

 Ive got no problem with him being MAGA, The pertinent point is, what is setting him and all the others off?

What keeps the other hundreds of thousands of former military MAGAs from losing thier shit,

whereas Thomas Jacob Sanford could not control himself mentally
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Thomas Jacob Sanford, born 1985 in Michigan, was raised in Atlas Township and graduated from Goodrich High School in 2003. He joined the US Marine Corps in 2004, achieving sergeant rank, with deployments to Japan and Iraq (2007-2008) under Operation Iraqi Freedom. Honorably discharged in 2008 with awards like the Iraq Campaign Medal. Post-military, he worked as a truck driver for Coca-Cola. Married with a son who has congenital hyperinsulinism; family ran a 2015 GoFundMe for medical costs. Lived in Burton, MI; known as an outdoorsman and helpful neighbor. No party affiliation per records. A Trump-Vance sign was visible at his home per Google Maps; conflicting unverified claims of Democrat donations exist. Motive for the Sept 28 attack remains unknown, per authorities.
His mind was not for rent to any god or government
Always hopeful yet discontent, knows changes aren't permanent
But change is 
Professor Neil Ellwood Peart 
 
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(09-29-2025, 08:57 AM)sahgwa Wrote: I find it ironic that the shooter in NC was also a combat veteran.  It's like they were all activated at the same time. tinfoil hat on.  
Implants...

I don't know about activated, but I have some serious concerns about the mental health crisis in this country, and the possibility of a certain 3 letter agency being behind some of it.

Because the mental health crisis has gotten WAY out of control.  And what are we doing about it?

But.... Take our guns.... No
(09-29-2025, 08:57 AM)sahgwa Wrote: I find it ironic that the shooter in NC was also a combat veteran.  It's like they were all activated at the same time. tinfoil hat on.  
Implants...

or 

"The Men Who Stare at Goats" type stuff...

still, we have a large swathe of former military with PTSD and all the other human afflictions and mental stressors
His mind was not for rent to any god or government
Always hopeful yet discontent, knows changes aren't permanent
But change is 
Professor Neil Ellwood Peart 
 
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(09-29-2025, 09:09 AM)Chiefsmom Wrote: I don't know about activated, but I have some serious concerns about the mental health crisis in this country, and the possibility of a certain 3 letter agency being behind some of it.

Because the mental health crisis has gotten WAY out of control.  And what are we doing about it?

But.... Take our guns.... No

the lowest common denominator...

But the military and the MIC ought to build and fund much better options; this isn't a new phenomenon Ive heard stories from WWII and before
His mind was not for rent to any god or government
Always hopeful yet discontent, knows changes aren't permanent
But change is 
Professor Neil Ellwood Peart 
 
[Image: PEART-2744335652.gif]

 
(09-29-2025, 09:34 AM)putnam6 Wrote: the lowest common denominator...

But the military and the MIC ought to build and fund much better options; this isn't a new phenomenon Ive heard stories from WWII and before
There was a movie that was rumored to be about a WW2 veteran that couldn't quit killing. The movie was "The Town That Dreaded Sundown" and was about a post war town that had multiple murders possibly attributed to an either special forces or OSS agent that flipped. Allegedly, it was based on a true story.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Town_T...1976_film)
The killer was never caught nor ever identified.

War changes people...
(09-29-2025, 08:57 AM)sahgwa Wrote: I find it ironic that the shooter in NC was also a combat veteran.  It's like they were all activated at the same time. tinfoil hat on.  
Implants...

Sometimes things happen in waves because of copy cat attacks/

But it’s often hard to explain so many similarities.

I think one thing many agree on is the rhetoric people have used for years now certainly doesn’t help the crazies. I can hop from X to 4chan to here no problem. Some can’t do that when they hear hyperbole like the civil war is already here.



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