Mass shooting LDS church Grand Blanc, Michigan, is gunman down.Church on fire

[putnam6]

 
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Steve Lookner

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CNN: Up to 7 people unaccounted for at church in Grand Blanc after shooting & fire

[chr0naut]

I think you should just accept your error with grace.   No harm to it.   Everybody makes mistakes.  You could argue circles around yourself, but you see, I've been there, lived among Mormons and I know who they are.  You aren't the first to take their writings, or cherrypick the Book of Mormon or even the writings of Jedediah Smith and twist them into something that isn't currently believed.   Consider how our understanding of the very context of "Christian" has changed over the centuries.  

I don't expect a confession from you.   I have no expectations.  You are wrong.  Have a great day, and good talking with you.

Only Mormons consider works such as the Book of Mormon, the Pearl of Great Price, and Doctrines an Covenants to be scripture. Similarly, only Mormons give regard to what Joseph Smith propounded.

Criticism of Mormon sacred texts - Wikipedia

[BeyondKnowledge]

I think of the frog in a pot, lets say over the last 20-30 years, politics, social media, bad to non existent mental health care..a lot of moving parts.

Don't forget the lobotomy part I already explained about. The frogs have no brain left before the heating.

[Bootless]

I mean to say of course they are not Christian to other Christian traditions...
Another question might be... "Do modern/hybrid religions have standing?"

There is no personal opinion in this statement.
Established institutions will always object.  OF course they must... literally.

A problem, as you state, is the non-acceptability of other Christian traditions.

For instance, LDS consider non-LDS to be members of the Abominable Church (which is quite bad, run by Satan and all). See: 1 Nephi 13 & 14. The Apostolic Succession so proudly held by Roman Catholics is invalidated by LDS. Only LDS priesthood is valid according to their Doctrine and Covenants.

LDS is not Ecumenical in any way. It's like they view non members kindly and gently as future converts to truth, just like Evangelicals treat atheists, agnostics, humanists, pagans, and nones with the greatest of loving kindness and gentleness because by doing so some may be "saved".

Is the "standing" question regarding equal standing before the law as stated in the Constitution? Of course they do.

[BeTheGoddess]

Tavistock connection with shooter?

[chr0naut]

GROK knows more than you too.

Grok knows nothing.

It compiles things that seem similar, together, and formats the output compliant to language rules.

If enough people posted "1 + 1 = 5", Grok could only repeat that.

Recent studies, including one from Apple, suggest that AI models, particularly large language models, struggle with reasoning tasks and often rely on pattern-matching rather than true logical reasoning. These models have shown poor performance on novel problems that require systematic thinking, indicating limitations in their reasoning capabilities.

You see, AI always answers, even if it has no basis for an answer, it will 'hallucinate' an answer.

Grok Cannot Reason. AI Is Not Intelligent.

AI Search Has A Citation Problem (where Grok-3 gave more incorrect answers than any other LLM).

Fact check: How trustworthy are AI fact checks?

[ANNEE]

Only Mormons consider works such as the Book of Mormon, the Pearl of Great Price, and Doctrines an Covenants to be scripture. Similarly, only Mormons give regard to what Joseph Smith propounded.

Criticism of Mormon sacred texts - Wikipedia

The Book of Mormon is more of a history book.

When I was attending -- we only used the bible.

There is so much misinformation in regard to Mormon's on the internet -- you'd need to be an expert to sort it out.

[UltraBudgie]

I work with vets at the VA now.

I try to fix things.

Whatever can be done, we need more of it.

The results of a multivariate analysis reveal that having a U.S. military background is the single strongest individual-level predictor of whether a subject in the PIRUS data is classified as a mass casualty offender. Of the 451 subjects with military backgrounds in PIRUS who committed extremist crimes from 1990-2022, 170 (37.7%) are classified as mass casualty offenders.

A record of military service is more reliable for classifying mass casualty offenders in PIRUS than factors that are more commonly discussed in the literature on mass casualty crimes, such as mental health concerns, offending alone or in a small group, and having a pre-radicalization criminal history.

https://www.start.umd.edu/sites/default/...284%29.pdf

[ANNEE]

Seems like among all the things we face is the cold reality that you can't tell a person who they are.

Mormons may or may not consider themselves Christians... 

Actually, it's kind of insulting.

But -- technically if you consider Christ your Savior -- you are Christian.

[midicon]

I wonder if it will test anyone's faith.