Isreal launches strikes on Iran

[Orby]

I'd like a bit more evidence than some bloke on the radio or rumours before kicking off another War in the ME.

What the current claim that Iran is developing WMD? They dug out a mountain to develop it. Fourdow is your evidence.

There is no way on Planet earth that the current regime in Iran can be allowed nukes. Indeed allowed anything nuke.  Iran has been supplying rogue terrorists in Iraq to kill thousands of western troops by IED. They kept the Hamas and Hezbollah alive with backing through training, weapons, dosh, thus are majorly implicated in the terror attacks of 10/7. Iran backed so much terror worldwide since the 70's their time unfortunately has come. The Japanese , Nazis, Saddam, Soviets all tried to take on TPTB and were eventually brought to their knees. This is just the latest in a long line of many and probably not the last.

[putnam6]

Blimey! Some in the Israeli parliament would love that. Maybe israel is going for broke here and Greater Israel is on the cards. On the radio earlier they said the food distribution centres in Gaza are now in the very south, so as to concentrate the Gazan's down there and allow Israel to redevelop the north. So much going on right now over there. No idea what's going down in Judea and Samaria. An Israeli Arab was on tv over here the other day saying how the Iranian attacks were having the effect of uniting Muslim, Christian and Jews in Israel. The Israeli arabs feeling being under attack too, not just the other segments of Israel. How Arab Israeli's now felt a desire to actually fight for Israel in defence of their homeland being under attack from Iran. The world's going topsy turvey upside down, maybe an effect of all this war will be unity within Israel of all the modern day tribes which live there.

I think right now Israel wants to put Hezbollah and Hamas on the back burner and concentrate on Iran; only Iran can hurt them significantly right now.

Only if Hezbollah gets involved and starts shooting missiles or other infiltrations, possibly, but not in great numbers.

[xuenchen]

"MOSCOW (Reuters) -Russia remains ready to act as a mediator in the conflict between Israel and Iran, and Moscow's previous proposal to store Iranian uranium in Russia remains on the table, the Kremlin said on Monday.
 Tehran says it has the right to peaceful nuclear power, but its swiftly-advancing uranium enrichment programme has raised fears in the wider West and across the Gulf that it wants to develop a nuclear weapon."

Russia is ready to mediate on Iran, and to accept Tehran's uranium, Kremlin says

Putin is getting involved no matter what Trump says to warn him off.

Hopefully Russia's "mediation" doesn't include missiles flying! 

[Orby]

I think right now Israel wants to put Hezbollah and Hamas on the back burner and concentrate on Iran; only Iran can hurt them significantly right now.

Only if Hezbollah gets involved and starts shooting missiles or other infiltrations, possibly, but not in great numbers.

You probably got it spot on. At the same Iran somehow is going to strike back at Israel in a meaningful way. There were infiltration tunnels in the north and Hezbollah was crawling through them very recently until they uncovered them. Locals were told they were going mad when they reported infiltration by Hezbollah in the north, yet were proven right. Now, just think about a terror attack in retribution. This coming one way or another. Might by like the Argie attack that killed 100ish a while back. Targeted attacks worldwide might be their way to respong to Israel. Even missile attacks from Lebanon, not sure how much Hezbollah have left yet one would imagine they have a few thousand squirrelled away in the mountains. Israeli securit on 7/10 was proven to be a farce. Totally caught out, this can happen again. Iran needs to get a proper blow into the Israeli mindset. Somewhere that must be coming.

[Orby]

"MOSCOW (Reuters) -Russia remains ready to act as a mediator in the conflict between Israel and Iran, and Moscow's previous proposal to store Iranian uranium in Russia remains on the table, the Kremlin said on Monday.
 Tehran says it has the right to peaceful nuclear power, but its swiftly-advancing uranium enrichment programme has raised fears in the wider West and across the Gulf that it wants to develop a nuclear weapon."

Russia is ready to mediate on Iran, and to accept Tehran's uranium, Kremlin says

Putin is getting involved no matter what Trump says to warn him off.

Putin the mediator lol, it's like a freak show if he bthinks the world's going to accept that. He lost Syria now on the verge of losing Persia too. My bet is he's just using all this to get a better deal with Trump on the carve up of Ukraine, at the very least right now western arms and attention are being diverted from Ukraine to the Middle East and that will make Vlad happy.

[Bush Master]

Let's think it through. Ayatollah at 94 just wants to be martyred, but has a family. So taking a few bunker busters on the chin isn't ideal. Israel doesn't want a martyr, esp a nuclear martyr, so mostly wants local talent to finish the job. No doubt certain small arms have suddenly become available to qualified applicants.

So surely IDF air and SF attacks are lock-step with the "situation" on the ground. Likely IDF could hit More/Harder/Faster but has to coordinate with political goals and develop target intel in a complex manner. I wish I knew more.  Definitely got a kick out of the political prisoners breaking out thru the bomb breech in their jumpsuits, running down the highway in the middle of the night with their 'mates. It must feel awesome, at least as good as running west through that snowy wheat field next to a T-34.

Anyway, this sick puppy is about to be put to sleep. No doubt the mission of disarming IRGC and dispersing proxies will be accomplished. The rest is up to the Iranian people. I can see reasons to be optimistic.

[CriticalStinker]

Just now from the White House press briefing, given the opportunity for diplomacy, Trump will make his decision in the next two weeks.

Hopefully cooler heads prevail, this isn't our fight, and it couldn't come at a worse time.

[quintessentone]

Putin the mediator lol, it's like a freak show if he bthinks the world's going to accept that. He lost Syria now on the verge of losing Persia too. My bet is he's just using all this to get a better deal with Trump on the carve up of Ukraine, at the very least right now western arms and attention are being diverted from Ukraine to the Middle East and that will make Vlad happy.

Can anyone really make Vlad happy?

[Ravenwatcher]

Just now from the White House press briefing, given the opportunity for diplomacy, Trump will make his decision in the next two weeks.

Hopefully cooler heads prevail, this isn't our fight, and it couldn't come at a worse time.

"Within" The next 2 weeks could be tomorrow Iran is not going to agree to stop all enrichment writings on the wall.

[Mantiss2021]

"Within the next two weeks"


Was it not claimed, fairly recently, that Iran could possibly assemble a nuclear weapon "within a couple of weeks"?

At this point, it would not suprise me in the least if Iran has actually thrown together at least a few, crude (by modern standards) nuclear devices and is only waiting on an opportunity to deliver them....reliably.  Wouldn't want to waste the "kill shot(s)", would they? Not with untested, and therefore unproven, warhead designs.

Especially since such an act would likely result in both personal, and national suicide, as well.

Of course, with "friends" like Russia and China, Iran might have been privy to much more advanced, and proven, weapon designs, as well.



"Within the next two weeks" therefore, to me, sounds not quite "kosher".


Almost like someone is deliberately "setting the stage" for a "big show".

A show to which no one would want front row tickets!