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Driver drives into crowd in Liverpool City Centre in England
#11
This is not speculation -

Wonder why press happy to report police statement, perp race and age?
#12
"Wonder why press happy to report police statement, perp race and age?"

I would imagine that was to defuse tensions.

And so there was not false information spread which could have led to widespread violence across the nation.

Just like what happened with the horrendous Southport attack last year.
"Yet so it is, we see the illiterate bulk of mankind that walk the high-road of plain common sense, and are governed by the dictates of nature, for the most part easy and undisturbed. To them nothing that is familiar appears unaccountable or difficult to comprehend."
#13
I wasnt aware the UK was so on edge and tense.

My first thought when it appeared on X.com was that it was going to be a Palestinian support march, until I saw the colors and realized it was soccer-related. 

So many people, this could have been worse, a lot worse.
His mind was not for rent to any god or government
Always hopeful yet discontent, knows changes aren't permanent
But change is 
Professor Neil Ellwood Peart 
 
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#14
A reporter an hour after the incident had said that police had starting lifting restrictions for car access allowing vehicles onto the roads. In the first video of the car before it starts hitting people, it almost appears as if the driver was trying to get past the crowd and people started attacking his car and opened his door, causing him to speed off, then the next videos are him hitting people??

But it was difficult to understand why he was attempting to drive amongst the crowd other than to cause chaos?



 
"Denial is a common tactic that substitutes deliberate ignorance for thoughtful planning." 
Charles Tremper
#15
"So many people, this could have been worse, a lot worse."

Looking at the first two poor sods he knocked down and up into the air like skittles im supprised there were no fatalities.

Guess that's the difference between 20 and 40 mph.

So thank god for small mercies i suppose, and i tend to agree, it could have been a lot worse.

That being said, injuring 47 people, 4 of whom appear to be children, and hospitalising 27 others with 4 reported to be in critical condition is not exactly small potatoes.

As to the motivations behind the incident, i suppose that remains to be determined or released.
"Yet so it is, we see the illiterate bulk of mankind that walk the high-road of plain common sense, and are governed by the dictates of nature, for the most part easy and undisturbed. To them nothing that is familiar appears unaccountable or difficult to comprehend."
#16
"But it was difficult to understand why he was attempting to drive amongst the crowd other than to cause chaos?"

Could he have somehow turned down the wrong street and simply panicked?

Not that it would condone his actions all the same.

Guess there will be CCTV that might shine some light as to his reason for him being there or the why/how of it all.

Edit: by the looks of it, he's been charged with driving under the influence of drugs and attempted murder.

https://www.thenational.scot/news/nation...g-driving/
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article...child.html
"Yet so it is, we see the illiterate bulk of mankind that walk the high-road of plain common sense, and are governed by the dictates of nature, for the most part easy and undisturbed. To them nothing that is familiar appears unaccountable or difficult to comprehend."
#17
From a few new articles as well as those you've posted Andy, it does appear as if he followed an ambulance after the police allowed it through the cordons for a heart attack victim. 
Was he lost, off his head and ended up causing the carnage? What ever it is, I'm sure they're going to throw the book at him.



 
"Denial is a common tactic that substitutes deliberate ignorance for thoughtful planning." 
Charles Tremper
#18
First the police said he was local to Liverpool. Tonight he's from South Derbyshire!
Thank god there were no deaths and the remaining 11 people in hospital are in a stable condition.
Rainbows
Jane
#19
(05-26-2025, 01:54 PM)Shinzaun Wrote: I despair for our species. If this turns out to be another fucking radical religious attack I think we should seriously start to consider banning ALL religion. It does more harm than good, it always has and always will. It's a fucking joke

Seriously considered, seriously rejected. Religion or institutional theology/theosophy is a human right. Just like owning a weapon, which is the mirror image of such intellectual pursuit and represents similarly unstable elements who don't merit the blanket violation of civil liberties. there are some who would argue guns and gods both bring out the worst in our society and should be prohibited, but in doing so you're infringing the capacity for self determinism. Which is, in a word, fascist.
I can't help what my face does when you talk
#20
(05-27-2025, 04:14 PM)TzarChasm Wrote: Seriously considered, seriously rejected. Religion or institutional theology/theosophy is a human right. Just like owning a weapon, which is the mirror image of such intellectual pursuit and represents similarly unstable elements who don't merit the blanket violation of civil liberties. there are some who would argue guns and gods both bring out the worst in our society and should be prohibited, but in doing so you're infringing the capacity for self determinism. Which is, in a word, fascist.

What a load of utter bollocks. 
My comment was on the apparent need for various groups of people with religious beliefs trying to force their belief on a other religious group. 
And you know full well what I meant



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