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Charlie Kirk shot at an event in Utah
(09-14-2025, 10:00 AM)andy06shake Wrote: Why even leave the thing to be found in the first place, never mind reassembled? 

Why not dump it in a lake or somewhere it could not be found easily if he had time on his hands?

I guess he's going to be asked.

He wanted the cartridges found which tie to the Groypers. He didn't want people to call him a leftist. Because leftists are "bad by definition"*

*only by some people
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(09-14-2025, 11:33 AM)DBCowboy Wrote: You stated the truth.  

After YEARS of the left calling anyone not-left a fascist, racist, nazi, etc etc

A weak-minded individual would start to believe it and act on it.



And after YEARS of the right calling anyone not right an Evil Dem, Marxist, Communist, libtard and wanting to destroy America...etc?


Works both ways.
'l'll just check my Giveashitometer....Nope.  Nothing...
(09-14-2025, 11:35 AM)IDELB2006 Wrote: I lost interest at this part.

That would make him a crazy person, and suggesting that killing another person over political leanings is a justification is just wrong.

You and I know that, but those that are so filled with hate or anger or maybe mentally ill as well, as were the right-wingers at the Capitol Bldg. riot who shouted 'hang Mike Pence' seemed to think hanging him was justified.
"The only journey is the one within."
(09-14-2025, 11:30 AM)Bootless Wrote: Karl Marx did not off himself after publishing Communist Manifesto.
Hugh Hefner did not off himself after publishing the Playboy Manifesto.

Manifestos are not suicide notes. It's crazy to use them as such.

True, but the people who decide to go on shooting sprees have indeed been known to produce manifestos.

And they do tend to use them as a form of justification and suicide note.

I'm just saying what i see, Bootless.

Robin Westman being the last one that springs to mind.
"Yet so it is, we see the illiterate bulk of mankind that walk the high-road of plain common sense, and are governed by the dictates of nature, for the most part easy and undisturbed. To them nothing that is familiar appears unaccountable or difficult to comprehend."
(09-14-2025, 11:26 AM)Bootless Wrote: I have some questions:
1) The picture we all saw of a rifle in a box; who brought the box?
2) Is that the actual murder weapon, or is it a generic rifle?
3) Where's the towel?

Theory: The cops found a weapon, didn't take pictures of the weapon in situ , then later did a re-enactment using a generic rifle in box, for photo, not the murder weapon.


Law enforcement will put evidence in paper bags or cardboard boxes to protect it. In this case, handling by too many people could have smeared fingerprints or added theirs' to it or accidentally added someone's DNA to the gun.

They Do Not move evidence till it is thoroughly documented.
(09-14-2025, 11:37 AM)quintessentone Wrote: He was indoctrinated and programmed into a MAGA family. Why is it out of the question that MAGA can make a 180 degree (not necessarily to the left, as he was unaffiliated politically) turn if they think their government is acting in a fascist manner?

 

He was 22.  He didn't kill ANYONE when he was with his "MAGA" family, as you put it, it was only AFTER he attended college and was exposed to the leftist ideology.
(09-14-2025, 11:43 AM)DBCowboy Wrote: He was 22.  He didn't kill ANYONE when he was with his "MAGA" family, as you put it, it was only AFTER he attended college and was exposed to the leftist ideology.

I just saw on the independent news this morning that he was living at his parent's home.
"The only journey is the one within."
(09-14-2025, 11:37 AM)Bootless Wrote: He wanted the cartridges found which tie to the Groypers. He didn't want people to call him a leftist. Because leftists are "bad by definition"*

*only by some people

Possibly, but until someone asks him.

Which i'm sure they are doing right now or very soon.

We just won't know.
"Yet so it is, we see the illiterate bulk of mankind that walk the high-road of plain common sense, and are governed by the dictates of nature, for the most part easy and undisturbed. To them nothing that is familiar appears unaccountable or difficult to comprehend."
(09-14-2025, 11:38 AM)Oldcarpy2 Wrote: And after YEARS of the right calling anyone not right an Evil Dem, Marxist, Communist, libtard and wanting to destroy America...etc?


Works both ways.

Sure, but Charlie Kirk wasn't doing that.  He was the reasonable one, he was mild, a moderate.

Someone who wanted to discuss.
(09-14-2025, 11:45 AM)quintessentone Wrote: I just saw on the independent news this morning that he was living at his parent's home.

So the news that he was living with his trans partner are false?



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