Charlie Kirk shot at an event in Utah

[cherokeetroy]

No hun ... that's not how it works.  You made the assertion that it's Moosad.   Prove it.

Counter the common sense points I made.   Good luck with that.

Prove that Moosad had motive.   Kirk was a very strong supporter of Israel.  Good luck with that.

Prove that Moosad knew about the event and the details before 9 days ago and that they wanted to kill Kirk previous to that nine days.

Prove that Moosad could, in nine days, find a patsy, get that patsy worked up to a murderous rage, get that patsy to agree to kill, and get that patsy to do the actual killing, all without that patsy exposing Moosad for being the handler.

I made claims and you made counter claims 

Both claims have to be proven

That is, if you want your claims to stand as factual 

Otherwise, your claims are on par with mine

Unsubstantiated opinion

Theory

[andy06shake]

Timestamps on the video of him jumping off the roof would be useful data. It would indicate perhaps if there was time to disassemble the weapon. The limp could very well have been caused by the jump from the roof, rather than a hidden rifle barrel. Also, why reassemble? A question exists as to accomplices, perhaps one to catch a quickly-wrapped weapon thrown off the roof and spirit it away, and others to create a police distraction. It's all speculation at this point.

Seemed to have a slight limp when he got up, so could be.

Yeah, all speculative at the moment.

[Vermilion]

Nope, just him jumping off the roof with the alleged weapon broken down in his backpack, which is also debatable given the barrel length of the weapon in question.

And him also on camera, walking down the street with a limp, allegedly with the gun barrel down his drawers.

I mean, there are just so many unanswered questions that spring to mind.

I imagine the blanks will eventually be filled in and questions answered.

There is video of the shooter limping down a residential street heading toward the venue.
Limping because that rifle was stuffed into one pant leg.
Then there’s video of him jumping off the roof with a duffle bag with the rifle stuffed inside it.
Then there’s video of him limping down that same residential street away from the venue.
Limping because that rifle was, again, stuffed into one pant leg.
The video continues and shows he disappears, still limping, behind a house in the woods.
After a moment he can then be seen running quite normally.
No longer limping because he stashed the rifle in the woods.
This leads me to believe that rifle was not broken down.
I’d offer that that Mauser could not be broken down or he would have done so.

[FlyersFan]

I made claims and you made counter claims 

I didn't make claims. 
I asked questions about your claim.
My questions stand ...

Prove that Moosad had motive.   Kirk was a very strong supporter of Israel.  Good luck with that.

Prove that Moosad knew about the event and the details before 9 days ago and that they wanted to kill Kirk previous to that nine days.

Prove that Moosad could, in nine days, find a patsy, get that patsy worked up to a murderous rage, get that patsy to agree to kill, and get that patsy to do the actual killing, all without that patsy exposing Moosad for being the handler.

[Bootless]

I found this on Change.org. Not gonna link it because it's a petition.

 

Wait a minute.

Smith - Mundt Act is about U.S. government produced propaganda being broadcast only out of the U.S., not for domestic consumption.

The revision allowed that U.S. government produced propaganda to be available to domestic audiences.

I think someone is confused. Maybe they mean some other law.

Trump reposted that video that the lady sent him. Is Trump also ignorant of what Smith-Mundt Act is?

[cherokeetroy]

I didn't make claims. 
I asked questions about your claim.
My questions stand ...

Prove that Moosad had motive.   Kirk was a very strong supporter of Israel.  Good luck with that.

Prove that Moosad knew about the event and the details before 9 days ago and that they wanted to kill Kirk previous to that nine days.

Prove that Moosad could, in nine days, find a patsy, get that patsy worked up to a murderous rage, get that patsy to agree to kill, and get that patsy to do the actual killing, all without that patsy exposing Moosad for being the handler.

You made claims

[JefeFeesh]

Again, I'm not the topic up for debate, as much as you would seem to like me to be. 

And that's nice, but it's also pure projection and a baited monologue, not even a critique.

""You're"" conflating disagreement with left mentality while ignoring the facts.

Different ideas don't automatically equate to division tactics Jefefeesh.

And accountability is not as partisan as you seem to think.

Labeling an entire ideology as responsible for violence without evidence is intellectually lazy.

What's crazy is how triggered you seem to be over mere disagreement.

And you're reducing the debate to insult rather than rigorous argument.

If you have some sort of issue with me or my actions, i suggest you take it to DM and stop derailing the thread with your nonsensical personal attacks.

The topic is Charlie got shot and killed. Why, what could have set this up? I expressed that the mentality of ignoring one's past actions and words(what wallflower brought up, highlighting you specifically as an example) and feigning cooperation based on a "moral" perch is ingenuine. How do we discuss a topic if we delete history?

You mentioned that the hate is embellishment, and I brought up other instances where group mentality was called embellishment, an idea, not a concern or real, only to be confirmed quietly later.

I don't think accountability is monopolized by any group, but do see many contradicting statements and claims from the left. Triggered, or engaged? Passionate, resolute? Nah, just use the word with the most negative connotation... is that the passive aggressiveness you were projecting onto me earlier?

You called it insults, but I'm literally responding to your actions. The actions you are showing are the same actions from leftists enjoying this tragedy, indifference. "Make it stop; I don't want to hear it anymore; why should I be accountable for what I said in the past, etc.." 

You see a six, and I see a nine, but you're convinced only you are correct.

I'm done. I see you are happy to feign ignorance... ironic considering you moderate for this website.

I see the drift, that's another reason I'm done. Apologies for that.

[FlyersFan]

You made claims

I asked questions about your claim ... which you have failed to answer.

Then I made the conclusion that this is probably exactly what it looks like ... an unhinged lefty with trans ties snapping and murdering someone.   I also reposted the evidence that has come from the FBI and law enforcement.   And others have posted the same evidence that I did.  And of course we have the shooter admitting to the crime.

[andy06shake]

It takes time to assemble that weapon 

I guess he had plenty of time on his hands 

A fugitive on the run

Why even leave the thing to be found in the first place, never mind reassembled? 

Why not dump it in a lake or somewhere it could not be found easily if he had time on his hands?

I guess he's going to be asked.

[Vermilion]

It wasn't "false" narrative 

It was part of the evidence that's been revealed

No.
Groypers are not lefties.
Every piece of evidence shows the shooter was a diehard lefty.
Therefore the groyper narrative was a completely false narrative.