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About 150 People Stranded On Cruise Ship After Suspected Hantavirus Outbreak
#51
Jon Fleetwood has investigated the PCR tests for the Hantavirus and they are not that great- can create false positives.

https://jonfleetwood.substack.com/p/hant...repeatedly

This is a timeline for the first 3 people who contracted Hantavirus and died.

https://www.eonline.com/news/1431775/han...eople-died

The 69 year old woman died on April 26. Wow

This looks like it has been manufactured. The reason is that Bill Gates has a line on the top of page 69 in his book "How To Avoid A Climate Disaster."

He also has a line on the top of pages 6 & 9 in his latest book "Source Code".

April 26th is Jennifer Gates birthday. It could be a coincidence but it is weird.

https://www.famousbirthdays.com/people/j...gates.html

He made 269 tweets in 2021.

https://thevisualized.com/twitter/summary/billgates

The man started showing symptoms April 6, Melinda published her first book "Moment of Lift" April 23, 2019. [23-6=17] Bill is bonkers over #17.


https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/the-mom...1145569825

I see that the publication date has been changed Question
#52
https://www.facebook.com/nbcnightlynews/...044153710/


Tedros of the WHO is desperate for the U.S. to rejoin. "The Next Pandemic is Not if But When."

https://live.childrenshealthdefense.org/...y-changes/


And right on time-
We have interest in refunding GAVI.

https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/childhood-vac...nding-gavi
#53
(05-08-2026, 06:17 AM)quintessentone Wrote: "Key facts
  • Hantaviruses are a group of viruses carried by rodents that can cause severe disease in humans.
  • People usually get infected through contact with infected rodents or their urine, droppings or saliva.
  • Infection with hantaviruses can cause a range of illnesses, including severe disease and death.
  • In the Americas, hantaviruses can cause hantavirus cardiopulmonary syndrome (HCPS), a severe respiratory illness, with a case fatality rate up to 50%.
  • Andes virus, found in South America, is a currently known hantavirus for which limited human‑to‑human transmission among contacts has been documented.
  • In Europe and Asia, hantaviruses cause haemorrhagic fever with renal syndrome (HFRS)."
"To date, human-to-human transmission has been documented only for Andes virus in the Americas and remains uncommon. When it occurs, transmission between people has been associated with close and prolonged contact, particularly among household members or intimate partners, and appears most likely during the early phase of illness, when the virus is more transmissible."

https://www.who.int/news-room/fact-sheet...hantavirus

It is confirmed that passengers and crew (and other immediate contacts) have the Andes strain of this virus.

"No Alternative Therapies: The search context does not identify any natural, herbal, or naturopathic remedies that have been proven effective against Andes virus. Relying on unproven treatments can be dangerous given the high fatality rate (up to 50%) of hantavirus cardiopulmonary syndrome. " (LLM, WHO)

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"Health officials in that country have identified 62 people — airplane passengers, airport workers, health workers, hospital cleaners, port of entry officials — who likely had contact with those two patients.So far, officials have tracked down 42 of them, and none tested positive for hantavirus."

https://globalnews.ca/news/11836710/hant...itzerland/

While your key facts were accurate they are now outdated. They only apply to people that get infected locally to their area while not traveling. 

World travelers could in fact get any strain and carry it to any place. Only the rats known origin is significant in which strain we are discussing here.
I know too much and question everything.
Does anyone know the minimum safe distance of ignorance?
Did anyone ask the monkeys how much fun the barrel actually was?
#54
The incubation on the ship of this virus is likely the worse case possible. 

People from many parts of the world put in close proximity with a virus  source that was unknown at the time. The ships corporate policy to not scare the passengers and probably not have the best medical staff for such outbreaks just delayed the necessary actions to stop the spread. Those along with the long time before the symptoms could show and several passengers departing at several stops just made it worse. 

As far as human modified, that is a guess at this point. Several parties interested in doing so have already been mentioned.
I know too much and question everything.
Does anyone know the minimum safe distance of ignorance?
Did anyone ask the monkeys how much fun the barrel actually was?
#55
(05-08-2026, 04:05 PM)BeyondKnowledge Wrote: While your key facts were accurate they are now outdated. They only apply to people that get infected locally to their area while not traveling. 

World travelers could in fact get any strain and carry it to any place. Only the rats known origin is significant in which strain we are discussing here.

I'm not understanding what you are correcting here. The passengers and crew had the Andes strain verified and the rats' origin was deduced to be from an excursion a couple took before boarding the ship, both whom died from the virus.

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"Yes, health officials believe a Dutch couple contracted the Andes strain of hantavirus from a nature excursion before boarding the cruise ship. 
  • Excursion Details: The couple participated in a bird-watching trip through Argentina, Chile, and Uruguay prior to the ship's departure. 
  • Source of Infection: They visited sites in these countries where the specific species of rat known to carry the Andes virus is present, likely exposing them to contaminated rodent urine, droppings, or saliva. 
  • Transmission: The virus was subsequently transmitted to others on the ship through close human-to-human contact, a rare occurrence specific to the Andes strain. " (LLM)
"The only journey is the one within."
#56
(05-09-2026, 05:19 AM)quintessentone Wrote: I'm not understanding what you are correcting here. The passengers and crew had the Andes strain verified and the rats' origin was deduced to be from an excursion a couple took before boarding the ship, both whom died from the virus.

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"Yes, health officials believe a Dutch couple contracted the Andes strain of hantavirus from a nature excursion before boarding the cruise ship. 
  • Excursion Details: The couple participated in a bird-watching trip through Argentina, Chile, and Uruguay prior to the ship's departure. 
  • Source of Infection: They visited sites in these countries where the specific species of rat known to carry the Andes virus is present, likely exposing them to contaminated rodent urine, droppings, or saliva. 
  • Transmission: The virus was subsequently transmitted to others on the ship through close human-to-human contact, a rare occurrence specific to the Andes strain. " (LLM)

I am saying you are correct but oversimplifying things that will confuse some people. 

The source of the original infection is the important thing. Bringing up all the several variants adds to the confusion to many. It doesn't matter where you are when the symptoms show, only where that strain originated. 

The way you presented your post I replied to could easily be misunderstood by some to show where you have the disease matters more than where it originated.
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Does anyone know the minimum safe distance of ignorance?
Did anyone ask the monkeys how much fun the barrel actually was?
#57
Fox News just covered this story again.

Over two dozen people from all over the world left that ship before they knew how big a problem it was. 

There are six states in the USA with people from that ship during that time. 

The spread, person to person, is rare even for this strain. It requires close contact and is only infectus for a couple of days of the infection. They stated they think it was the Dutch couple that originally cought the Andies strain.
I know too much and question everything.
Does anyone know the minimum safe distance of ignorance?
Did anyone ask the monkeys how much fun the barrel actually was?
#58
Quote:Birdwatcher, 70, struck down by rat virus on doomed cruise named and pictured - as Brits on board to isolate in UKLeo Schilperoord was on a five-month trip to South America with his wife when they boarded the MV Hondius.

The 70-year-old birdwatching enthusiast and his wife, Mirjam Schilperoord, 69, were on a five-month trip to South America when they boarded the doomed MV Hondius.
Mr Schilperoord was reportedly struck down by the deadly rat-rat borne disease on April 11. His grieving wife died a few days later, it is understood.

The widow had left the ship with her husband's body before she became unwell herself ahead of a scheduled flight back to the Netherlands from from South Africa, the Mail on Sunday reports.

She briefly boarded a KLM flight from Johannesburg to Amsterdam but was not allowed to fly and in hospital the following day later on April 24, according to the newspaper.

https://www.lbc.co.uk/article/birdwatche...BXs2joH73w
"Yet so it is, we see the illiterate bulk of mankind that walk the high-road of plain common sense, and are governed by the dictates of nature, for the most part easy and undisturbed. To them nothing that is familiar appears unaccountable or difficult to comprehend."
#59
Looks like they have begun to evacuate the ship of the coast of Tenerife.
Quote:The evacuation of hantavirus-struck cruise ship the MV Hondius has begun off the island of Tenerife, where the ship has anchored.
Spanish health officials described the situation as “unprecedented” on Sunday morning as it confirmed all passengers remain asymptomatic.
The passengers will board sealed-off buses to the island's main airport, about 10 minutes away, to board repatriation planes for heading to their respective countries.
Spanish nationals will be the first to disembark, with other nationalities ‌to follow in groups, government officials said ‌on Saturday.
The 22 British passengers on board are expected to be flown back to the UK the same day. It is understood they will be tested on the ship before they disembark and will then be taken directly from the ship to the plane.
On arrival, they will be taken to a hospital in Wirral, Merseyside, for “clinical assessment and testing”, health officials said. They will be held for 72 hours, after which specialists will decide whether they can isolate at home or another suitable location.
The ship’s arrival has been met with protest on the island, as residents fear possible exposure to the virus.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world...73711.html
"Yet so it is, we see the illiterate bulk of mankind that walk the high-road of plain common sense, and are governed by the dictates of nature, for the most part easy and undisturbed. To them nothing that is familiar appears unaccountable or difficult to comprehend."
#60
(05-09-2026, 01:43 PM)andy06shake Wrote: https://www.lbc.co.uk/article/birdwatche...BXs2joH73w

The deceased couple apparently went birdwatching in a dump. Tragic.

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"The couple were Dutch birdwatchers, not garbage collectors.  They visited a landfill in Ushuaia, Argentina, specifically to observe rare Patagonian birds, such as the White-bellied Seedsnipe, which are attracted to the waste site. 
Authorities believe Leo and Mirjam Schilperoord contracted the deadly Andes strain of hantavirus from infected rodents at the dump before boarding the MV Hondius cruise ship.  The husband died on the ship, and his wife died shortly after disembarking in South Africa."

https://search.brave.com/search?q=hantav...59cac93bde

Cruise ship safety questions are now being raised. Are they really Petri dishes on the high seas? Another cruise ship excursion was cancelled due to a norovirus outbreak.

Why did not the ship's doctor use PPE to avoid contracting any type of disease as losing the doctor in an isolation event would be catastrophic. They were lucky one of the passengers was a doctor and had stepped up to tackle this outbreak on ship. It seems to me that ship's protocols need to be looked at under a microscope and prevention protocols be put in place. Are cruise ships really Petri dishes? It would appear they are.

"Dr. Stephen Kornfeld, an American oncologist from Bend, Oregon, assumed the role of de facto head doctor on the MV Hondius after the vessel’s own physician contracted hantavirus and fell critically ill. " (LLM)
"The only journey is the one within."



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