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Trump is in talks with Russia to end the war
Please tell me the EU's import of Russian fossil fuels doesn't cost more than thier aid to Ukraine IN 2024 FFS

https://energyandcleanair.org/wp/wp-cont...2.2025.pdf

 
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Interesting study: “EU imports of Russian fossil fuels in the third year of the invasion surpassed the EUR 18.7 bn of financial aid they sent to Ukraine in 2024.”
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Well looks like he’s ready to deal again. Twitter link
Quote:BREAKING: Ukrainian President Zelensky says he is ready to sign the minerals deal with US President Trump.

I know I’m stupid, eat crayons, and a minority but I think we should tell him to go pound sand. Same to NATO. Stop all money going to him. Hell, Stop all foreign kickback schemes… er. Aid. 

he also says he’s willing to step down as dictator in exchange for NATO membership. It’s in comments from link above.
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(03-03-2025, 05:44 AM)pianopraze Wrote: Well looks like he’s ready to deal again. Twitter link

I know I’m stupid, eat crayons, and a minority but I think we should tell him to go pound sand. Same to NATO. Stop all money going to him. Hell, Stop all foreign kickback schemes… er. Aid. 

he also says he’s willing to step down as dictator in exchange for NATO membership. It’s in comments from link above.

That's not what he said according to your own source.

"When asked about these remarks, Zelensky dismissed the idea that he should step aside to smooth U.S.-Ukraine relations."
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(03-02-2025, 04:30 PM)Oldcarpy2 Wrote: "Let's try leaving Uncle Sam out of your regional war altogether."

Like World Wars 1 and 2?

That would have ended badly for you if you'd adopted Trump's attitude then.

Thank goodness he wasn't in charge then.

This is 2025.
YOU have a regional war in YOUR backyard.
Time for YOU to spend YOUR money and send YOUR troops to YOUR backyard.
Not us anymore.
When UK/Europe helps us with our regional war of Mexican drug cartels taking over the South West, and South America invading our country by the tens of millions ... then we'll talk about us helping you out with your regional war on the other side of the planet.

I agree with Barack Obama in 2014. 
Russia invading Ukraine is a regional war and Europes to deal with.

I read an estimate yesterday that America has spent/sent up to 100 billion dollars on this regional war in Ukraine, and what we have got for it is nothing in the USA and a stalemate in Ukraine with Russia.  An unending war that can not be won by Ukraine without boots on the ground from UK/Europe/USA and massive money influx from UK/Europe and USA.  Which would mean it's a proxy World War III.
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(03-03-2025, 05:44 AM)pianopraze Wrote: Well looks like he’s ready to deal again.

Last time he said that he got influenced by the american democrats to blow it up at the last minute.  
I wouldn't trust what he says (or what ANY of them involved say ... Putin, Zelenskyy, Trump, UK and EU leadership)

Putin can't be trusted.
Zelenskyy can't be trusted.
Europe and UK leadership can't be trusted - they are in it for themselves wanting the USA to pay for their own security.
Trump and American politicians, both Republican and Democrat, can't be trusted - playing political games while this major deal is in the works and europes security is at stake.
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"An unending war that can not be won by Ukraine without boots on the ground from UK/Europe/USA and massive money influx from UK/Europe and USA. Which would mean it's a proxy World War III."

Nobody is talking about boots on the ground to win the war.

Only after a peace deal.
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(03-03-2025, 06:21 AM)Oldcarpy2 Wrote: Nobody is talking about boots on the ground to win the war.

Only after a peace deal.

- You have to have boots on the ground from outside Ukraine in order to win the war.

- There is no reason for Russia to make a peace deal ... they, unfortunately, are winning.

- And, if the war was to end, the boots on the ground from UK/Europe would be armed and combat ready .. and they'd be there forever.  Just like the DMZ in Korea.

This is for Europe/UK to deal with.  
It's their backyard.
They can pay for it.
We've already paid 100 billion by some estimates, and gotten nothing for it but a stalemate and a financial black hole.
Europe/UK can put the armed troops there, call them 'peace keepers' and pretend that they aren't really 'boots on the ground'.  Not us.  It's THEIR backyard.  Not ours.

And while all this planning is going on .... no one can be trusted.   Not Putin.  Not Zelenskyy.  Not Trump or the American congress/senate.  Not Canadian/UK/Europe leadership.  Not Russias buddies like N. Korea or Iran or China.
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The interviewer can't find a native for Starmer's boots on the ground

The UK has an Army with a total manning of around 100k (according to Grok). That includes reserves and admin

don’t know how many are actual fighting troops.

Video at the link 

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PM Keir Starmer now wants to put UK boots on the ground in Ukraine. Good luck…
 
Quote:Victor Davis Hanson (born September 5, 1953) is an American classicistmilitary historian, and conservative political commentator. He has been a commentator on modern and ancient warfare and contemporary politics for The New York TimesThe Wall Street JournalNational ReviewThe Washington Times, and other media outlets.
He is a professor emeritus of classics at California State University, Fresno, the Martin and Illie Anderson Senior Fellow in classics and military history at the Hoover Institution, and visiting professor at Hillsdale College. Hanson was awarded the National Humanities Medal in 2007 by President George W. Bush and was a presidential appointee in 2007–2008 on the American Battle Monuments Commission.

Heres are his thoughts in a quick video Victor isn't wrong here either

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(03-02-2025, 02:27 PM)putnam6 Wrote: Come on Politico is bought and paid for by USAID funds LOL but like I suggested

again the minerals rights deal was just a vehicle for peace talks no more no less it's just approximately 350 billion and will cost some billions to extract in Ukraine

Makes perfect sense in a capitalistic world to buy it cheaper from Russia and have it for its end uses quicker.

Trump saved America billions and we have access to rare earth minerals much quicker when life gives you lemons make lemonade and go on

The more one thinks about it, it's easy to see where the Left and Zelenskyy realized if they sign a deal with Trump he gets the credit, and might as well jettison him and try it without him firat

I am not sure how you can say Trump saved American billions without any independant auditing authority/oversight, but what does that matter any way, huh?

Trump just gave Musk a couple billion dollar contract.

Trump wants to remove government spending accounting from the GDP; easier to hide money that way, huh?

Trump shitcoin scheme back on with Sachs, using taxpayer money.

But I digress.

Putin is in this war for more than just territory, his ideology harkens back to the good ole days when Russia was the Soviet Union and he wants that to become a reality again.

Putin needs not only his ideologies to be fulfilled, but he needs people because his country's population continues to decline and that spells economic problems in the near future. That's why he abducted an estimated 20,000 Ukrainian children from the occupied territories at the start of the war.

Putin's actions, to me, show where his desperations lie; needing NK soliders on the front lines, betraying his Z-patriots/military/veterans/people by cozying up with the enemy (the U.S.) - desperation.
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(03-03-2025, 10:26 AM)quintessentone Wrote: I am not sure how you can say Trump saved American billions without any independant auditing authority/oversight, but what does that matter any way, huh?

That was a bit of my own hyperbolic turning lemons into lemonade but it makes sense regardless the US is no longer interested in the minerals right deal with Ukraine. Rumors are Zelensky was told to pitch a fit by previous administrations allies. Ironic how Susan Rice popped in the news

If the mineral rights deal were more than a vehicle for peace talks one would assume if it were really advantageous it will still happen, Zelensky is begging for the US to sign, and it's not likely to happen. 


Trump just gave Musk a couple billion dollar contract.

Trump wants to remove government spending accounting from the GDP; easier to hide money that way, huh?

Trump shitcoin scheme back on with Sachs, using taxpayer money.

Works better if you include links not to mention quite a bit off topic but when I get a chance I'll look them up. MUSK is crucial to numerous space related contracts. If Harris was Presdident he would still be receiving contracts or we could twiddle our thumbs and wait for NASA to be ready for so many launches. Just the reality of the situation


But I digress.

Putin is in this war for more than just territory, his ideology harkens back to the good ole days when Russia was the Soviet Union and he wants that to become a reality again.

Putin needs not only his ideologies to be fulfilled, but he needs people because his country's population continues to decline and that spells economic problems in the near future. That's why he abducted an estimated 20,000 Ukrainian children from the occupied territories at the start of the war.
 

Putin's actions, to me, show where his desperations lie; needing NK soliders on the front lines, betraying his Z-patriots/military/veterans/people by cozying up with the enemy (the U.S.) - desperation.

after your digression it all seems to hyperbolic fearmongering speculation at best without solid evidence that Ukraine is in any better shape themselves. 

The abduction of children is horrific but it's always been Russia's MO historically lets hope it can be resolved in a peace deal, I have seen Russian responses that they take children when they they are to close to the battlefield, which sounds like a manufactured excuse but it has some logic.

Ive been watching this map since day one every 2-3 days and unless Ukraine can be more offensive and get bluer on the map it's a lost cause Russia is solidifying its defenses, which means it will take more than a few hand grenade drome attacks to dislodge them. They have brilliantly and bravely fought to a stalemate with a top 5 world power, but without real NATO troops and other capabilities, they have little chance of moving the front lines back into Russia.

Right now we have Ukraine drone defenses and 2 French Mirage jets patrolling the Black Sea, they will need a much more vigorous offensive to dislodge Russia.

They have no military plan or timeline to do so, only an insatiable need for more weapons, ammunition, shells, missiles, and cash.

Hell, the North Vietnamese had settled into planned guerilla warfare tactics by year 3 and it was already obvious the US would play hell trying to dislodge them. Ukraine is years away from being able to remove Russia from the Ukrainian sliver of land, the blowup at the Oval Office didn't help. We can pretend Zelenskky was justified if one wants to, but it likely emboldens Russia to dig in wait, while Ukraine whithers away.

Whatever damage the Russians are receiving it's still not enough to change the tide or even strengthen Ukraine's position for negotiations. That will take attacks on a well-entrenched Russian army. 

Zelensky might have blown any chance for a ceasefire and peace talks when even a week's pause would have likely been more beneficial to Ukraine than Russia

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