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'Alternate Theories Of UFO Origin'.
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For folks interested in (or entertained by) speculation about the UFO subject then there's a good presentation below from researcher Greg Bishop exploring 'Alternative Theories of UFO Origin' - lots of various ideas kicked around from luminaries such as John Keel, Mac Tonnies, Michael Persinger, Jacques Vallee, Rick Strassman etc. as well as other strange aspects like USOs, cryptoterrestriality, extra dimensionality, time travel, magnetic field induction, tulpas and elementals so probably best to try and watch with an open mind.







Quote:Greg Bishop has been studying UFOs and the paranormal for most of his life. His first article on the subject was published in 1988. In his book Project Beta: The Story of Paul Bennewitz, National Security, and the Creation of a Modern UFO Myth (2005 Simon & Schuster/ Pocket Books) he wrote about a government campaign of disinformation perpetrated against an unsuspecting U.S. citizen. The no-man's land between the extremes of wide-eyed belief and closed-minded debunkery has fascinated Greg and led to the birth of a magazine he co-founded called The Excluded Middle, which was a journal of UFOs, conspiracy research, psychedelia and new science. .





Not to be outdone Richard Dolan also discusses the various hypotheses out there and, whilst he posits the ETH, also engages in a spot of conjecture about origin and the nature of UFO reality in this clip:












Dr Hynek's colleague and original 'nuts and bolts' guy Ted Phillips also speculates about origin in this great interview - he describes incidents where UFOs have been witnessed with physical trace evidence on the ground (4000 cases in 93 countries - 19℅ of which involve humanoids) and also broaches the paranormal angle by relating a case where poltergeist activity immediately began in a house after witnesses observed a close range UFO depart vertically outside their upstairs window.
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Please post if you disagree but thought there was quite a refreshing vid below about how the defining of UFOs as 'alien' is 'inherently contradictory, presumptuous and unscientific'.

It also posits that doing so prejudices many other explanations and opens the door for armchair debunkers and lazy pseudo-sceptics who have never even bothered to study the subject.











Quote:In English-language media, we're accustomed to using the terms, "UFO" and "Alien" interchangeably. While this may seem harmless enough, it is detrimental to a focused, data-conscious debate on UFOs. Here's why.

Beer
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To call a totally unknown type of device moving strangely in the air as "alien" is not a misuse of the term and it is handy.  Who wants to look up how to spell "anonymous" all of the time?  Methinks that the understanding of the word "alien" is proper.  That it has roots in meaning that the phenomena has itself earned. 
Eventually, of course, the word "alien" will be taboo, discarded and never mentioned in public discourse because it will reflect poorly on the occupants just as we are schooled to never use the word "illegal" anymore.
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#4
Well, diction and logic demand that we always keep separate the definitions in our minds .  Of course the average Joe always uses UFO as meaning Extraterrestrial craft but that's not really it, is it?

Alien = foreign to humankind, or the nation involved.
UFO = any object flying that is unidentified
UAP = this one is interesting because it essentially broadens the term UFO, to include anything flying that is unknown but that is not necessarily physical, it could be some kind of phenomenon like even a gas or a plasma. 

You could have a UFO that is actually manmade from the MIC. 
Then there is the whole cryptoterrestrial/faery history and hypothesis as well.
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To Karl12:

So I quickly skipped through the first video because I am confident I've come across all those hypotheses during my quest for the truth since the 90s.

I, however, did watch Richard Dolan's entire video and I think I may be at the point where he is, specifically, looking to what we probably don't know, yet, e.g. warp drive/quantum tunnelling (particles travelling through barriers) being possible.

I think right now I am mulling around if some of these hypothesis can be rolled into quantum entanglement to include time dilation, warp drive, particle entanglement/tunnelling etc. in the sense of ET/alien matter/particles interacting with human matter/particles so as to create a new combined interaction/reality.

As to my experience with ET, the craft both levitated up into the sky until I could not see it again, while another time it just blinked out. Through it all, it felt totally real as being in a physical reality with time dilation.

Thanks, Karl12, for keeping the search alive and well as I will never stop trying to understand how it happened. However, I know why it happened as was explained to me and I gave my permission to be involved.

So this is where I am now regarding hypothesizing what it could be:



BTW, as for the automatic connection of ETs or aliens to the UFO term, well why not? Don't we all have to keep an open mind?

Here is a silly joke I came across the other day:

We use the term:
UFO for Unidentified Flying Object, but if the object has been identified,
then we use the term:
FO - Flying Object, but if the object lands then we would have to use the term:
O - Object.
"The real trouble with reality is that there is no background music." Anonymous

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(01-15-2025, 11:23 AM)quintessentone Wrote: To Karl12:

I, however, did watch Richard Dolan's entire video and I think I may be at the point where he is, specifically, looking to what we probably don't know, yet, e.g. warp drive/quantum tunnelling (particles travelling through barriers) being possible.

Sure. Why not. I can see it two ways...either scientists work hard to make sense out of warp drive/tunneling or may be some crazy discovery advances physics which can happen tomorrow...and then warp drive would sound very naive.
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(01-16-2025, 07:43 PM)Darkorange Wrote: Sure. Why not. I can see it two ways...either scientists work hard to make sense out of warp drive/tunneling or may be some crazy discovery advances physics which can happen tomorrow...and then warp drive would sound very naive.
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You might find this video interesting; Jump to 55:00 for the gist of it.
 
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https://youtu.be/nb7tKK0BIEE?si=D_U_n3Ir82Z45ePI

"The real trouble with reality is that there is no background music." Anonymous

Plato's Chariot Allegory
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