(12-18-2025, 01:50 AM)chivo Wrote: "Because the man in the news says so"

Sorry I know I wasn't for me I'm just playing prediction

Bingo.  I just wanted to see what she would say.

I have friends and family members that hate him.  Unfortunately they don't know why.  I've asked and all I get is "he's a horrible person".  They can't reason and just blurt out something emotional.  Or they start repeating everything the news says, lol.  

Yes, I guess that was predictable.  Good call @chivo.

(12-16-2025, 02:18 PM)ANNEE Wrote: I just hope the BBC holds their ground.

These bullying tactics is how Trump has gotten as far as he has.

If they hold their ground until disclosure.

Trump and his minions will run for the hills.

(12-18-2025, 07:29 AM)Roma Wrote: Bingo.  I just wanted to see what she would say.

I have friends and family members that hate him.  Unfortunately they don't know why.  I've asked and all I get is "he's a horrible person".  They can't reason and just blurt out something emotional.  Or they start repeating everything the news says, lol.  

Yes, I guess that was predictable.  Good call @chivo.

Yeah I'm just going to wait what she replies. If she doesn't that means "the man in the telly" which is not an argument. Not if people like her represent themselves as mature grownups with a non partisan analysis of the situation. Like the people who are interested in truth.

(12-18-2025, 07:31 AM)andy06shake Wrote: If they hold their ground until disclosure.

Trump and his minions will run for the hills.

Disclosure will be a bitch....

(12-18-2025, 12:02 PM)Oldcarpy2 Wrote: Disclosure will be a bitch....

Disclosure about what?

BBC Director General Tim Davie and CEO of News Deborah Turness resign over edited Trump speech

(12-18-2025, 03:33 PM)Knows Wrote: Disclosure about what?

BBC Director General Tim Davie and CEO of News Deborah Turness resign over edited Trump speech

About how he supposed to have suffered 5 Billion $ in damages?

Basic stuff, matey.

(12-18-2025, 03:33 PM)Knows Wrote: Disclosure about what?

BBC Director General Tim Davie and CEO of News Deborah Turness resign over edited Trump speech

Tax records, medical records, and various other compromising information that Trump would not wish to be divulged. 

That kind of disclosure...

The kind of things he does not wish lawyers to see.

I don't do Bitchute.

Quote:BitChute is an "alt-tech" video hosting service that describes itself as an alternative to mainstream platforms like YouTube, emphasizing free speech. It is known for hosting far-right individuals, conspiracy theorists, and hate speech, leading to its general perception as an unreliable source of information. 

(12-18-2025, 04:16 PM)Oldcarpy2 Wrote: About how he supposed to have suffered 5 Billion $ in damages?

Basic stuff, matey.

Not only did Trump suffer defamation but many harmless people spent years in jail. Those in the BBC that put out  fake information should go to prison also. They committed an actual crime. 

Jan. 6 sentences are piling up. Here's a look at some of the longest handed down.

(12-18-2025, 08:54 PM)Knows Wrote: Not only did Trump suffer defamation but many harmless people spent years in jail. Those in the BBC that put out  fake information should go to prison also. They committed an actual crime. 

Jan. 6 sentences are piling up. Here's a look at some of the longest handed down.

Your argument collapses under basic facts and the law.

Criminalising the BBC for being wrong is authoritarian, not justice.

And if "fake information" sent people to prison.

I think you may find it's your prosecutors and judges, not journalists, who would be held responsible.

Good luck proving defamation under actual U.S. law.

(12-19-2025, 06:13 AM)andy06shake Wrote: Criminalising the BBC for being wrong is authoritarian, not justice.

 The BBC wasn't just 'wrong'.
It purposely and with agenda tried to harm a person.
And it tried to make it so that person couldn't get a job.
And it tried to influence elections against that person.
All with lies they purposely did.
That's not just 'being wrong'.

If it were you they went after ... you they lied about ... 
you they tried to frame for something you didn't do .... you
that they tried to stop from getting a job you wanted ... you'd 
want them held accountable, right?   You'd want them to 
admit they purposely did it and make them stop so they don't 
ever do it again.   Right?

The BBC was lying and socially 
engineering and manipulating the public at the expense of 
an innocent person.   Yes .. innocent.  Trump didn't do what
they tried to make it look like he did.

Trump sucks.   But the BBC was wrong.   
Two things can be right at the same time.   
Trumps lawsuit is over the top, but he does that all the time.
He exaggerates and goes big, and then settles for much less
having made a point.