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(01-04-2026, 07:09 PM)DBCowboy Wrote: Biden labeled him as such in 2020 and put a warrant out for his arrest.



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(01-04-2026, 07:28 PM)WallFlowerActive Wrote: These guys..

Again.  There are all kinds of intelligent reports all the time.  The AP cherry picked an organization that primarily thought paper pushers makes a trend report every four years?

Again.  Wonder what actual intel and evidence is presented to the US president in actual daily briefs in something closer to real time.

Cherry picked?

"The U.S. Intelligence Community (IC) is composed of 18 agencies that work together to collect, analyze, and distribute intelligence essential for national security and foreign policy. These agencies include:
  • Central Intelligence Agency (CIA)
  • Defense Intelligence Agency (DIA)
  • National Security Agency (NSA)
  • National Geospatial-Intelligence Agency (NGA)
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  • Military Intelligence Components (e.g., Army, Navy, Air Force, Marine Corps, Space Force)
  • Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI)
  • Homeland Security Investigations (HSI)
  • Cybersecurity and Infrastructure Security Agency (CISA)
  • National Reconnaissance Office (NRO)
  • National Geospatial-Intelligence Agency (NGA)
  • National Security Agency (NSA)
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  • National Reconnaissance Office (NRO)
  • Defense Intelligence Agency (DIA)
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  • National Reconnaissance Office (NRO)
    These agencies collaborate to address intelligence gaps and provide timely information to decision-makers across the government. 



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(01-04-2026, 07:07 PM)chr0naut Wrote: Apparently the reason Maduro was renditioned was that he was allegedly a narco-terrorist.

Perhaps someone could enlighten me as to what that term means legally, as I am unable to find that term in any US statute.

Can you charge someone with a crime that is not defined in law, and without due judicial process, and the alleged crimes were supposedly comitted entirely outside the boundaries of your legal jurisdiction?

It does appear that there are legitimate charges against Maduro for crimes against humanity, but those are best served by prosecution in the International Criminal Courts.



One of Maduro’s indictments is defined in 21 U.S.C. § 960a….

§960a. Foreign terrorist organizations, terrorist persons and groups
(a) Prohibited acts
Whoever engages in conduct that would be punishable under section 841(a) 1 of this title if committed within the jurisdiction of the United States, or attempts or conspires to do so, knowing or intending to provide, directly or indirectly, anything of pecuniary value to any person or organization that has engaged or engages in terrorist activity (as defined in section 1182(a)(3)(B) of title 8) or terrorism (as defined in section 2656f(d)(2) of title 22), shall be sentenced to a term of imprisonment of not less than twice the minimum punishment under section 841(b)(1),1 and not more than life, a fine in accordance with the provisions of title 18, or both. Notwithstanding section 3583 of title 18, any sentence imposed under this subsection shall include a term of supervised release of at least 5 years in addition to such term of imprisonment.
(b) Jurisdiction
There is jurisdiction over an offense under this section if-
(1) the prohibited drug activity or the terrorist offense is in violation of the criminal laws of the United States;
(2) the offense, the prohibited drug activity, or the terrorist offense occurs in or affects interstate or foreign commerce;
(3) an offender provides anything of pecuniary value for a terrorist offense that causes or is designed to cause death or serious bodily injury to a national of the United States while that national is outside the United States, or substantial damage to the property of a legal entity organized under the laws of the United States (including any of its States, districts, commonwealths, territories, or possessions) while that property is outside of the United States;
(4) the offense or the prohibited drug activity occurs in whole or in part outside of the United States (including on the high seas), and a perpetrator of the offense or the prohibited drug activity is a national of the United States or a legal entity organized under the laws of the United States (including any of its States, districts, commonwealths, territories, or possessions); or
(5) after the conduct required for the offense occurs an offender is brought into or found in the United States, even if the conduct required for the offense occurs outside the United States.
© Proof requirements
To violate subsection (a), a person must have knowledge that the person or organization has engaged or engages in terrorist activity (as defined in section 1182(a)(3)(B) of title 8) or terrorism (as defined in section 2656f(d)(2) of title 22).
(d) Definition
As used in this section, the term "anything of pecuniary value" has the meaning given the term in section 1958(b)(1) of title 18.
(Pub. L. 91–513, title III, §1010A, as added Pub. L. 109–177, title I, §122, Mar. 9, 2006, 120 Stat. 225 .)



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(01-04-2026, 07:29 PM)quintessentone Wrote: It's a shitshow at this point and you should be crying about it.


Maduro is arrested with a majorly of Venezuelans happy where there is no US troops holding territory in Venezuela at this second.  I think that’s called a win win.  It might change.  But it far from a shit show, it was a power move.
(01-04-2026, 07:22 PM)ANNEE Wrote: Me too.

My ancestors have been here since the 1700s.

Me too.

My ancestors have been here since the 1600s (Mayflower).
(01-04-2026, 07:29 PM)quintessentone Wrote: It's a shitshow at this point and you should be crying about it.

You live in Canada, no one here cares about your constant divisive rhetoric. Ask your dr if maybe stopping is right for you.
(01-04-2026, 07:33 PM)WallFlowerActive Wrote: Maduro is arrested with a majorly of Venezuelans happy where there is no US troops holding territory in Venezuela at this second.  I think that’s called a win win.  It might change.  But it far from a shit show, it was a power move.

The people there are no better off with the same regime. US can at any minute drop bombs on their heads. Rubio has to do damage control for Trump's wrong rhetoric. The new President is not cooperating and has government and military backup. I'd say it's a shitshow at this point in time.
"The only journey is the one within."
(01-04-2026, 07:27 PM)CriticalStinker Wrote: Ah yes. 5% of the cocaine trade coming out of the country.

Before fentanyl, cocaine accounted for 4,000 deaths. Alcohol deaths are close to 200k a year.

But sure, it’s the governments job to go after and topple the government of a country to “save lives”. 

The neo cons don’t even try to sell these anymore. They just do it and tell people to deal with it. At least Iraq was a WMD narrative after a terrorist attack while people were scared. It’s sad how easy people are sold now. Over so little.
That 5% you’re saying equals tons of cocaine into the country.

Newsflash: One death as a result of their drugs coming in is one too many.
(01-04-2026, 07:34 PM)KrustyKrab Wrote: You live in Canada, no one here cares about your constant divisive rhetoric. Ask your dr if maybe stopping is right for you?

I get enough likes to keep me going. I must be doing something right. Maybe try discussing the topic instead of attacking members for a change, if you can't, then get help.
"The only journey is the one within."
(01-04-2026, 07:32 PM)quintessentone Wrote: Cherry picked?
 


Who they actually source.


“Their work is based on intelligence from a wide variety of sources that includes experts in academia and the private sector. NIC documents and reports which are used by policymakers, include the National Intelligence Estimate and the Global Trends reports. ”

Again.  Primary goal is paper pushers making four year reports.  Where you ignore there are numerous reposts made by all kinds of offices at various levels.

Again.  What is the actual daily hard intelligence that is collected and briefed to the President each day.  Which is very different than the “report” your cherry picking.



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