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(01-04-2026, 07:14 PM)quintessentone Wrote: Of course there is evidence, you just won't accept it.

Or I actually live in the US, follow various sources, and know the propaganda lies you reference.
News:

"WASHINGTON (AP) — A new U.S. intelligence assessment found no coordination between Tren de Aragua and the Venezuelan government, contradicting statements that Trump administration officials have made to justify their invocation of the Alien Enemies Act and deporting Venezuelan migrants, according to U.S. officials.
 The classified assessment from the National Intelligence Council, released this month, is more comprehensive and authoritative than an earlier intelligence product released Feb. 26 and reported last month by The New York Times, according to two U.S. officials familiar with the assessment. They were not authorized to address the matter publicly and spoke on condition of anonymity.
 
The new assessment draws input from the 18 agencies that comprise the intelligence community. It repeatedly stated that Tren de Aragua, a gang that originated in a prison in Venezuela, is not coordinated with or supported by the country’s president, Nicolás Maduro, or senior officials in the Venezuelan government. While the assessment found minimal contact between some members of the gang and low-level members of the Venezuelan government, there was a consensus that there was no coordination or directive role between gang and government."

US intelligence contradicts Trump claims linking gang to Venezuelan government | AP News
"The only journey is the one within."
(01-04-2026, 07:20 PM)WallFlowerActive Wrote: Or I actually live in the US, follow various sources, and know the propaganda lies you reference.

Me too.

My ancestors have been here since the 1700s.
(01-04-2026, 07:18 PM)WallFlowerActive Wrote: Like the intel community said the Hunter Biden  . . .

Again, Trump can't stand on his own.

Gotta find someone else to blame.
(01-04-2026, 07:18 PM)RazorV66 Wrote: Only Liberals would cry about an oppressive dictator being ousted.

Venezuelans around the world are celebrating, Liberals are reaching for gallons of ointment to pour on their colossal Trump butt hurt.

It's not outing a dictator because he didn't out the new regime President - the regime is still in place.

Why are they celebrating when the regime is still in place?

Mind boggling nonsense from many sides.
"The only journey is the one within."
(01-04-2026, 07:11 PM)WallFlowerActive Wrote: Did he.  Or were there bad states already waging various kinds of threats to the US when Trump took office.  Libs don’t seem to mind the US fighting a proxy war through the Ukraine.  But all hell busts loose when Trump arrests one drug dealing dictator making people of that country happy and leaves.  I guess you rather spend billions and billions making arms dealers richer resulting in 100,000 thousands of deaths and on going Ukraine corruption.

Ah yes. 5% of the cocaine trade coming out of the country.

Before fentanyl, cocaine accounted for 4,000 deaths. Alcohol deaths are close to 200k a year.

But sure, it’s the governments job to go after and topple the government of a country to “save lives”. 

The neo cons don’t even try to sell these anymore. They just do it and tell people to deal with it. At least Iraq was a WMD narrative after a terrorist attack while people were scared. It’s sad how easy people are sold now. Over so little.
(01-04-2026, 07:22 PM)ANNEE Wrote: Me too.

My ancestors have been here since the 1700s.


Well then, you too must know the propaganda lies I tell here on DI?
"The only journey is the one within."
(01-04-2026, 07:26 PM)quintessentone Wrote: It's not outing a dictator because he didn't out the new regime President - the regime is still in place.

Why are they celebrating when the regime is still in place?

Mind boggling nonsense from many sides.


Obviously you should educate yourself.

If that's the case, then why are you crying so hard about it?
(01-04-2026, 07:21 PM)quintessentone Wrote: National Intelligence Council,


These guys..
Quote:National Intelligence Council

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_I...ce_Council

The National Intelligence Council (NIC), established in 1979 and reporting to the Director of National Intelligence, bridges the United States Intelligence Community (IC) with policy makers in the United States. The NIC produces the "Global Trends" report every four years beginning in 1997, for the incoming President of the United States. Their work is based on intelligence from a wide variety of sources that includes experts in academia and the private sector. NIC documents and reports which are used by policymakers, include the National Intelligence Estimate and the Global Trends reports. The NIC's goal is to provide policymakers with the best available information, that is unvarnished, unbiased and without regard to whether the analytic judgments conform to current U.S. policy.

Again.  There are all kinds of intelligent reports all the time.  The AP cherry picked an organization that primarily thought paper pushers makes a trend report every four years?

Again.  Wonder what actual intel and evidence is presented to the US president in actual daily briefs in something closer to real time.
(01-04-2026, 07:28 PM)RazorV66 Wrote: Obviously you should educate yourself.

If that's the case, then why are you crying so hard about it?

It's a shitshow at this point and you should be crying about it.
"The only journey is the one within."



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