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Something tells me Venezuela won't be paying Russia back for the $6 billion of air defense systems it recently bought on credit.
I wouldn't pay for it either, that shit is garbage.
(01-04-2026, 12:15 AM)titenutz Wrote: My God Man ! Turn off the tv. Of the dozens of countries the US has supposedly " liberated " care to list those that were left better off ? I'll wait .

I think I was clear my view of our foreign policy post WWII in terms of conflict has been bad.
(01-04-2026, 01:03 AM)vonclod Wrote: I just about fell of my chair laughing at the concept the drug trade has been eliminated in America. Not one single solitary drug user will go without.

Yea, Trump isn’t even being serious about that narrative anymore.

It’s a hangover talking point from the original “justification”. He’s said the quite part out loud, but people are just going to save face.

Political footing is more important than our nations trajectory. Some people truly believe the only salvation is their party controlling the narrative. Everything else is just noise. Whether or not it’s the exact same path that’s always been there is irrelevant.
(01-04-2026, 12:56 AM)Vermilion Wrote: The first and second amendments, as an example, predate the civil war too and the Trump administration (and its supporters) think those are pretty cool as well.
Why not stick to foundational principles which are best for the country?

If you’re butthurt that Russia, China and Iran can no longer exploit Venezuelan oil, I’ll just say sorry not sorry.
The Venezuelans seem very happy about it.

Why stop at just the under-exploited Venezuelan oil? They are only the world largest crude reserve to control. But there are others to take too.  There's underexploited Iranian and Nigerian oil to destroy nature with too..

And both countries are totally asking for it!

We cited "drug crime syndicate" for Venezuela. And if that works... which it apparently did...

It will be, "they kill protestors" for Iran, who has the 3rd largest oil reserve in the world.

And "ISIS" checks the box for Nigeria, the 10th largest reserve on the planet.

So go oil!!! F*ck those woke windfarms and renewable nonsense.. And communist EVs!  We're America! Shale is our holy source rock.

I could probably get work as a mudlogger with my stupid education. I could even make 60% what I make now serving food and drinks to drunk people. 

Because the oil industry doesn't pay undergrads shit. 

So this isn't transparent at all.  If you believe the phrases, "drug crime syndicate," "regime that is killing protestors," and "ISIS is killing Christians" you're all set. Just believe in democratic freedom for every Vietnamese Venezuelan, Iranian, and Nigerian, and don't pay attention to the refinery behind the curtain as always. 

Venezuela. Iran. Nigeria. In that order. 

They all share three things. Large amounts of oil, ultra-friendly Chinese BRICS partnerships, and some sellable reason to justify taking administrative control in the name of magnanimous liberation.

Forgive me for not doing a tumbling pass over all that.
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While we're on a roll, why don't we just go ahead and take over Greenland, Canada and Mexico while we're at it?
The "anti-fascist no kings" people defending an actual fascist king is peak comedy.

Those same people last week: NO KINGS! NO DICTATORS!

Those same people today: FREE MADURO!
(01-04-2026, 01:57 AM)AnAlternateOpinion Wrote: While we're on a roll, why don't we just go ahead and take over Greenland, Canada and Mexico while we're at it?


Oh I’m sure some here will find a way to justify that.
(01-04-2026, 02:04 AM)Vermilion Wrote: The "anti-fascist no kings" people defending an actual fascist king is peak comedy.

Those same people last week: NO KINGS! NO DICTATORS!

Those same people today: FREE MADURO!

I will assume that's at me in a conflict averse sorta way? It followed me sort of.  

F*ck Maduro. Put him on your Randall Flagg-esque public enemy morale trial for all I care. He's probably already in Colorado awaiting that. 

He is the dictator that succeeded Chavez, right? And then wouldn't leave. Since when is that anything new to care about as an American? Because i am supposed to suddenly pay attention to the minimal amount they contribute to our illegal drug market? 

Doesn't South America always have a dictator or police state somewhere doing something? So yeah, there's one king, authoritarian, or dictator gone.  Now there's just about 43 monarchs, and 30 other authoritarian leaders to go. 

Please don't warp me into your herd. I think it's hilarious i am suppose to give a shit about Venezuelan freedom now. And drink the "this is a great thing for democracy." Kool Aid.  

It is the same damn country that was once totally freaking socialist with 11 cent/gallon gas that destroyed every engine it touched. 

Why is criticizing this as another tail wagging an oil drenched dog not able to process as anything else but defending Maduro? Just no nuance possible.  You that primed for battle?

I actually have the opinion people are gullible and will believe anything they're fed. 

Like believing that decade in Vietnam was because "every commie g*** was an American patriot crying to be free."  And not REALLY to stop the spread of our chief planetary rival's influence. 

Like that story has changed. At all.
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(01-04-2026, 01:48 AM)IdeomotorPrisoner Wrote: Venezuela. Iran. Nigeria. In that order. 

Now you're getting it. While we very likely will not have a problem with Iran, there is a risk that oil through the Strait of Hormuz will be affected during their transition to democracy. With Venezuela under our belt, that minor tactical risk is no longer a problem to us or our allies.
How it went down
Quote:America just toppled another regime. In this video, former infantryman Chris Cappy breaks down how U.S. Delta Force captured Venezuelan president Nicolás Maduro. In a high-risk nighttime raid on Fort Tiuna, backed by a massive 150-aircraft SEAD air campaign that shut down Venezuela’s air defenses. We analyze the helicopters, cyber warfare, CIA intelligence, legality, and, most importantly, who is actually in control of Venezuela now after Maduro’s arrest.





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