US-Iran War Mudpit Thread

[SteamyAmerican]

Ukraine has allegedly attacked an Iranian transport on its way to Russia via the Caspian.

Who says it ain’t WW3?

[DennisR6]

Ukraine has allegedly attacked an Iranian transport on its way to Russia via the Caspian.

Who says it ain’t WW3?

Don't forget about NK and African countries troops going to fight Ukraine.
One could make the claim that this regional war has turned into a global war of sorts.

[IDELB2006]

It looks like GOP support isn't uniform across the party.

Sen. Thom Tillis (R-NC) delivered the sharpest public rebuke, telling The Hill he no longer has confidence in President Donald Trump's Pentagon chief, describing him as erratic, insecure and inexperienced.

One senator, granted anonymity to discuss internal deliberations, said concerns about Hegseth's standing are filtering up from within the Pentagon itself and spreading to Capitol Hill. Another GOP senator pointed to apparent strategic miscalculations, including a failure to anticipate the prolonged closure of the Strait of Hormuz and Iran's willingness to strike U.S. allies such as Jordan, Kuwait and Saudi Arabia.

 
Senate Appropriations Committee Chair Susan Collins (R-ME) publicly criticized the recent departure of senior military officials during a hearing with Hegseth, calling the situation troubling and saying she still wants clarity on the administration's overall strategy and endgame for the war.
Cost concerns are compounding the unease. Hegseth told lawmakers the conflict has cost roughly $37.5 billion, a figure well below independent estimates from Moody's Analytics putting the true cost above $130 billion. Sen. Joni Ernst (R-IA) said many members remain frustrated by the lack of transparency around the numbers.

Still, patience is thinning. Sen. Shelley Moore Capito (R-WV) said she believes the public is growing weary of a war Trump initially predicted would last only a few weeks. With Republicans divided over both strategy and Hegseth's leadership, the path forward for additional military funding — and Hegseth's own standing — remains uncertain.

I expect the rino's to be canceled at the next available election.

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[SteamyAmerican]

Don't forget about NK and African countries troops going to fight Ukraine.
One could make the claim that this regional war has turned into a global war of sorts.

That’s a great point.

[Oldcarpy2]

It looks like GOP support isn't uniform across the party.

I expect the rino's to be canceled at the next available election.

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Hegseth will be blamed by Trump and thrown under a bus anytime soon.

Probably.

[chr0naut]

Look who's talking!  The Doctor will see you now.

You get real desperate when talked downto and cant prove what you claim.  

[Video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LPQSiTIb2Ac]

- Multiple photos and videos of the devastation from multiple sources and perspectives.
- Before and after satellite imagery.
- Personal testimony of families of the victims.
- A tight and definite timeline, verifiable by multiple cross checks.
- Lists of the injured.
- Televised funerals.
- Testimony by eyewitness aid workers.
- Confirmation by military investigators in the US and Israel.
- Photographs and videos of the debris.
- Admission by the POTUS.

And you still, without any evidence to support the idea, think it was all fake?
Are you, Alex Jones?

[govshill2]

- Multiple photos and videos of the devastation from multiple sources and perspectives.
- Before and after satellite imagery.
- Personal testimony of families of the victims.
- A tight and definite timeline, verifiable by multiple cross checks.
- Lists of the injured.
- Televised funerals.
- Testimony by eyewitness aid workers.
- Confirmation by military investigators in the US and Israel.
- Photographs and videos of the debris.
- Admission by the POTUS.

And you still, without any evidence to support the idea, think it was all fake?
Are you, Alex Jones?

None of that BS and none of your BS proves anything.  
You expect everybody to fall for Iran PR horseshit like you fall for it.  LOL  
Show the real proof or shut up 

[ReturnofBroccoli]

You don't have to poll absolutely everyone to figure out what the majority preference at the time of the poll is.

Here's a few real world factoids:

- When Trump won in 2016, he did not win the popular vote (a 'sort of' majority vote). He won on a technicality of the electoral college system.

- The highest turn-out of voters ever recorded in a U.S. presidential election was 158 million in 2020, and Biden won that against the current POTUS, Trump. Biden won on the popular vote and on the EC vote, but he still didn't win on the majority of the preferences of every eligible US voter.

Why do I say that?

- The total number of eligible voters in the United States is approximately 244.7 million as of the 2024 estimates.

(158 million / 244.7 million x 100) = 64.7% of the eligible voters, voted. That means of 35.3% did not vote.

So we can simplify the math, lets just say that by not voting, they voted for a candidate called 'Idon T. Giverschidt'. Then we can compare things on an equal footing.

So, in that 2020 election, Joe R. Biden got 81,283,501 votes, Don J. Trump got 74,223,975 votes and Idon T. Giverschidt got 86,379,100 votes.

That's a true majority for Idon T. Giverschidt... again... the undisputed all-time winner of every US political race!

We aren't talking about an election poll we are talking about your claims of knowing what the majority of americans want of which you have yet to address because its an asinine pretentious assumption

[SteamyAmerican]

- Multiple photos and videos of the devastation from multiple sources and perspectives.
- Before and after satellite imagery.
- Personal testimony of families of the victims.
- A tight and definite timeline, verifiable by multiple cross checks.
- Lists of the injured.
- Televised funerals.
- Testimony by eyewitness aid workers.
- Confirmation by military investigators in the US and Israel.
- Photographs and videos of the debris.
- Admission by the POTUS.

And you still, without any evidence to support the idea, think it was all fake?
Are you, Alex Jones?

Wonder what the read is by folks on here that the Pentagon actually released a new number of U.S. casualties that was significantly more than previously reported.

Wonder if that will be called “fake”.

[govshill2]

is there a doctor in the house!