US-Iran War Mudpit Thread

[quintessentone]

A sh@t sandwich? Iran is being dismantled militarily and economically all for the cost of just over a dozen lives! You really do need to check out things like.........

The first day of the Battle of the Somme. On this single day, the British forces suffered 19,240 deaths

Iran is in a similar state or size to WW2 Germany. 19,240 deaths in one day. So far a handful have died against Iran. The SMO is going beautifully, almost beyond a dream for the West, plus Putin gets his oil selling at higher rates, so literally everybody is happy. 

You obviously share the American government's sentiment where American lives and any other lives, including foreign women and children, really don't matter.

[Orby]

Since you brought up Israel- Something has just come up on the radar.

An attempt to merge the U.S military with the Israeli military
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/7zewIhvs6SE

Is there anyone that is not under Israeli influence? I was hoping for more "Peace Through Strength" rather than partnering with a country that is endlessly involved in wars.

As long as half of Israel lives in the States there will always be influences and connections. For better or for worse those influences have now married into the Trump family making this whole SMO more than expected. I can't see much changing. The connections already exist re USA and Il military union. The States stores plenty of weapons actually in Israel, for whose use is always there and on the ready. US military use it as a staging post. The whole thing is so interlinked.

[andy06shake]

My TPTB and yours differ slightly Andy. They are not insurance companies.

So who are your "TPTB" if not the people with a finger in just about every pie?

Lloyd's of London is 338 years old, established in 1688.

Economic influence and managing pricing risk, equate to significant power and influence, Orby...

But let's hear who you imagine runs the show from behind the proverbial curtain?

[Orby]

You obviously share the American government's sentiment where American lives and any other lives, including foreign women and children, really don't matter.

Er? USA has lost hardly any lives, that's caring. Plus if the States really didn't care about the locals their MIC can eliminate Iran in no time completely. You know that, so please, refrain from your lies.

[Orby]

So who are your "TPTB" if not the people with a finger in just about every pie?

Lloyd's of London is 338 years old, established in 1688.

Economic influence and managing pricing risk, equate to significant power and influence, Orby...

But let's hear who you imagine runs the show from behind the proverbial curtain?

I'm not get shot down for anti smellism.................... You know 7 million Jews, half the population live in the States and have a great deal of influence over the US foreign affairs. American's like Kushner and Whitkopf are Israel's foreign ministers, in all but name. That is all I'm saying before getting shot down for TLCs etc 

[Orby]

Actually, Lloyds of London, Aviva, Direct Line, Islam, and the USA did not exist at all in Biblical times.

That whole "Biblical" BS excuse is how they motivate people to believe that the particular current conflict is fulfilment of prophecy, inevitable and righteous. Propaganda used particularly in the remnants of the British Empire. It's not true. Read your bible, most countries involved in these wars don't even get a mention - even metaphorically (which probably isn't a good way to interpret the Bible, either).

ha, really, there is a colonial project going on, not saying there is anything right or wrong about it, yet that colonial project is based on ethno religious affiliation. Threats to it, have, indeed are being eliminated.

[andy06shake]

I'm not get shot down for anti smellism.................... You know 7 million Jews, half the population live in the States and have a great deal of influence over the US foreign affairs. American's like Kushner and Whitkopf are Israel's foreign ministers, in all but name. That is all I'm saying before getting shot down for TLCs etc 

So you can't tell us then.

Im apt to ponder thats because it would involve the likes of ""alternative history"" Khazarian jews ruling the world, mud floods, and imaginary empires that actually recoded history debunkers completely... 

Close to the mark or thereabouts?

[Orby]

This whole war is stupid and has real-world consequences even for a rural backwater somewhere in Britain. Are you willing to go into poverty so that Trumb can achieve some aim that even he isn't clear about? I'm not!

Well I have no idea what you are going to do about stopping it! Because people like you and me don't count, what we gonna do? Protest? Get a few placards, grown your hair, get some dreads, rainbow sweater, pair of nice leather sandals.......... TPTB couldn't care less about us. We can't do anything. Higher powers have decided that Iran will be put back a few decades and that, is just, the way it is. You will have to accept it! If it makes you poorer then I feel for you, but they will do what they will do. There is nothing whatsoever, that you and me can do. Higher forces want the destruction of another threat and they are doing what they do. Get ready for whoever they choose next too, there will always be another threat to eliminate 

[Orby]

So you can't tell us then.

Im apt to ponder thats because it would involve the likes of ""alternative history"" Khazarian jews ruling the world, mud floods, and imaginary empires that actually recoded history debunkers completely... 

Close to the mark or thereabouts?

All explained in my post Andy. No Khazar's though, sorry about that. You need to read influences like the Litvak Randlords 120 years ago in RSA and their combination with the world power at that time, Britain and the colonial projects of southern Africa. Influences and connections between business, nations, economies are real. Nothing changes.

[andy06shake]

All explained in my post Andy. No Khazar's though, sorry about that. You need to read influences like the Litvak Randlords 120 years ago in RSA and their combination with the world power at that time, Britain and the colonial projects of southern Africa. Influences and connections between business, nations, economies are real. Nothing changes.

Influence between wealthy people, their businesses, and government is real, Orby.

Recorded history perfectly illustrates that fact.

But that does not prove a religious or ethnic group "rules the world." 

Money talks, Orby, and also makes our world spin, nothing changes in that respect...