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US-Iran War Mudpit Thread
(03-17-2026, 06:01 AM)Vermilion Wrote: https://www.aljazeera.com/opinions/2026/...ere-is-why

Even aljazeera can see the reality now.
I'm shocked Al Jazeera ran with that.
It was interesting.
I wish they had a comments section.
It would have been interesting to read.
Bullseye  Lol Remember 7/10 Trump and Bibi, forget all the woke wimp sh8te from Starmer etc, just keep killing them...................... https://www.jpost.com/israel-news/defens...cle-890225
"When you are here for the good of the planet and humanity, the other levels are always trying to protect you in times of danger."
(03-16-2026, 11:07 AM)FlyersFan Wrote: Self defense.  You don't have to wait to be shot at in order to shoot first.   Just the threat from Iran is enough to justify a self defense claim.

No. Part of the terms in being a nuclear power is Mutually Assured Destruction. nukes are there as an option of last resort when everything else has failed and all is lost. Every nation knows if nukes are used in a hostile act, the response will be in kind against that nation. Nukes have prevented some major hostilities from even starting as the only winner is death for all.

Another point of failure in this 'self defense' claim is how well protected is Israel now? Missiles falling from the sky, Bibi gone AI, the USD petrodollar in tatters, the Iranian population motivated, US Military basses all across the Middle East gone, damaged or under attack. One positive is road congestion in Dubai is down.

What what the point of this attack? You killed a leader who was working with the UN nuclear non proliferation treaty. They have nuclear reactors for power generation, got material they need to do something with? After the 28/2 hostile act, Iran is going ahead with international support to become a nuclear power. What you feared in nukes is now becoming the reality.

In killing past negotiators and performing this attack, it has raised the foreign threat against you. That is not self defense. That is really, really stupid to not know even know what you are fighting. And now this stupidity has put the world at risk while the BRICS nations become stronger. Idiot.

 
Quote:for their imaginary Mahadi.

Does god just stop at the end of your beliefs?
(03-17-2026, 07:00 AM)Kwaka Wrote: Another point of failure in this 'self defense' claim ..

You haven't made ANY points of failure. 
Honestly, your post was impossible to follow.

Quote:Does god just stop at the end of your beliefs?
again.  I have no idea what that is supposed to mean.    
Their Mahdi that they think they are fighting for is imaginary.
(03-17-2026, 04:52 AM)FlyersFan Wrote: I know you said bunkum.   That's YOUR interpretation.   Fact is, the military action is legal.


Which legal basis is it being fought on? Even Huckabee is open in claiming the US aren't interested in international law or laws of war hence why there has been no attempt by the White House to establish a legal basis for their action and Trump/White House are open is admitting they've launched the offensive based on Trump and Kushner's feelings not on any evidence or sought to establish any legal basis. Israel meet the self-defence criteria but the US doesn't.
(03-17-2026, 07:10 AM)bastion Wrote: Which legal basis is it being fought on? 
Already stated.
Self defense.
And by US law it's not a war yet.
(yes yes we know in reality it is)
Congress hasn't declared it such.
So by US law it's legal.
And the UN has no legal jurisdiction to decide when America can defend itself.
So they are irrelevant.
(03-17-2026, 07:12 AM)FlyersFan Wrote: And the UN has no legal jurisdiction to decide when America can defend itself.
So they are irrelevant.

They are relevant in how the rest of the world is going to deal with this conflict.
(03-17-2026, 07:10 AM)bastion Wrote: Which legal basis is it being fought on? Even Huckabee is open in claiming the US aren't interested in international law or laws of war hence why there has been no attempt by the White House to establish a legal basis for their action and Trump/White House are open is admitting they've launched the offensive based on Trump and Kushner's feelings not on any evidence or sought to establish any legal basis. Israel meet the self-defence criteria but the US doesn't.

I'm curious, since you mentioned international laws.  Is Iran interested, or does a holy war supersede laws according to their religion?

Please educate me...
(03-17-2026, 07:25 AM)Roma Wrote: I'm curious, since you mentioned international laws.  Is Iran interested, or does a holy war supersede laws according to their religion?

Please educate me...

I doubt that they really adhere to international law. I’m willing to bet they know there’s a fat chance in hell they could have international law applied on their opponents either.

Even if our enemies don’t adhere to it though, I think we should. Consistency in that gives us more power on the international stage. And if we can’t follow international law when fighting non peer nations, than we have bigger problems.
(03-17-2026, 07:10 AM)FlyersFan Wrote: I have no idea what that is supposed to mean.    
Their Mahdi that they think they are fighting for is imaginary.

Interesting to hear other cultures in the region have similar stories in how this religious forever war is going to go. Can so easily go for another 5-20 years, become another Ukraine type thing with its own differences. Who really know how this is going to end? AI and the mech winning all?

One rumor of who ordered the Double Tap on a school day 1. Of course Israel, the kind of job Palantir does with its AI systems. Why would AI pick such a target, unless it it wanted to maximize trauma and public outrage to promote a war zone. As for the humans signing off on it, been the trend in Gaza?

If the Epstein files do get prosecuted, will help reduce some of the support for conflict to continue in a lawful way. Is it too much for the legal system to handle and the fighting drags on?



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