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05-07-2025, 01:08 PM
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Free speech and getting locked up in the US?
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/news/cont...reappshare
"Ozturk has been locked up in a rural Immigration and Customs Enforcement detention center in Louisiana for more than 100 days. In sworn statements in court documents, she reported experiencing several asthma attacks and sharing a cell with more than 20 others in cramped and unsanitary conditions. Her detention is “unprecedented and shocking,” according to Esha Bhandari, deputy director of the ACLU’s Speech, Privacy, and Technology Project. “She has been held behind bars for six weeks while her health deteriorates for writing an op-ed,” she told a three-judge appeals court panel Wednesday. “Detention is not the norm with respect to visa revocation, as we had here. The executive branch made a specific decision to detain Ms. Ozturk that was motivated by her speech.”
'l'll just check my Giveashitometer....Nope. Nothing...
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(05-07-2025, 01:08 PM)Oldcarpy2 Wrote: Free speech and getting locked up in the US?
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/news/cont...reappshare
"Ozturk has been locked up in a rural Immigration and Customs Enforcement detention center in Louisiana for more than 100 days. In sworn statements in court documents, she reported experiencing several asthma attacks and sharing a cell with more than 20 others in cramped and unsanitary conditions. Her detention is “unprecedented and shocking,” according to Esha Bhandari, deputy director of the ACLU’s Speech, Privacy, and Technology Project. “She has been held behind bars for six weeks while her health deteriorates for writing an op-ed,” she told a three-judge appeals court panel Wednesday. “Detention is not the norm with respect to visa revocation, as we had here. The executive branch made a specific decision to detain Ms. Ozturk that was motivated by her speech.”
https://xkcd.com/3081/
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(05-07-2025, 01:36 PM)UltraBudgie Wrote: https://xkcd.com/3081/
Been ruminating on this one until I had more data.
I am all for lawful immigration and also not supporting 'terrorism' as well as being respectful to the government that granted your visa but this i cannot support in any form. i find no grounds to support her detention whatsoever. and now that she is in the system the bureaucracy is ridiculous.
she should not have been detained for free speech through an article that she co authored with other people. but since she was, she should have been detained, questioned, and released no later than a few days once no evidence was found of material support for hamas. not a good look. Especially since she was not even attending any rallies or being disruptive on campus as Mr Rubio has claimed.
As human beings we often want to 'pick a side' even if we dont feel strongly about one or the other. but we also have to have self realisation to study our own psychology and see that what is more important is basic logic and compassion, not ego points for monkey -clubs, hence why politics is evil. , https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Detention_...zt%C3%BCrk
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07-13-2025, 05:31 AM
This post was last modified: 07-13-2025, 05:32 AM by UltraBudgie. 
(05-08-2025, 01:27 PM)sahgwa Wrote: Been ruminating on this one until I had more data.
I am all for lawful immigration and also not supporting 'terrorism' as well as being respectful to the government that granted your visa but this i cannot support in any form. i find no grounds to support her detention whatsoever. and now that she is in the system the bureaucracy is ridiculous.
she should not have been detained for free speech through an article that she co authored with other people. but since she was, she should have been detained, questioned, and released no later than a few days once no evidence was found of material support for hamas. not a good look. Especially since she was not even attending any rallies or being disruptive on campus as Mr Rubio has claimed.
released the day after you posted this. interesting testimony last week:
Quote:ICE report reveals Canary Mission used to target Rümeysa Öztürk
On Thursday, Alexandra Conlon, an attorney for the plaintiffs, displayed in court a report on Öztürk, who was arrested by masked immigration agents on a Somerville street in March. The document, titled “Report of Analysis,” was a subject profile of Öztürk, and partially unveiled for the first time. Under a section titled “social media and open sources” was a page titled “Canary Mission profile on Rümeysa Öztürk,” and cited its claim she participated in “anti-Israel” activism in March 2024.
On the profile was a photo of Öztürk published by Canary Mission, as well as the website’s characterization of her involvement in the Pro-Palestinian movement on campus. The other attachment included in the report, and shown to the court, was a copy of the op-ed Öztürk coauthored.
Peter Hatch, an assistant director of an ICE intelligence office, was the main witness on Thursday. Hatch testified over the past two days that he helped lead an operation internally referred to as Tiger Team that looked into protesters — including about 5,000 listed on the Canary Mission website.
Conlon pressed Hatch on the protest-related activities from Öztürk cited in the report.
“Is it fair to say that this ROA [report of analysis] on Ms. Öztürk includes no allegations from her protest activity apart [from] what’s on the face of it?” she asked, and questioned whether he was aware of any other allegations related to her protest activity.
“I believe this is what the analysts could find related to Ms. Öztürk,” Hatch responded.
the canary mission is sort of vague:
Quote:While Canary Mission prides itself on outing anyone it labels as antisemitic, its leaders refuse to identify themselves, and its operations are secretive. News reports and tax filings have linked the site to a nonprofit based in the central Israeli city of Beit Shemesh. But journalists who have visited the group’s address, listed in documents filed with Israeli authorities, have found a locked and seemingly empty building.
In recent years news organizations have reported that several wealthy Jewish Americans have made cash contributions to support Canary Mission, disclosed in tax paperwork filed by their personal foundations. But most of the group’s funding remains opaque, funneled through a New York-based fund that acts as a conduit for Israeli causes. https://www.wcvb.com/article/canary-miss...y/65381075
is this a new form of "parallel construction"?
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