UFO MIB Gov Thread.

[Karl12]

There could be two layers of the MIB's phenomena. For example, if the first set of cases were actually intelligence agents stalking targeted sensible person to try to trigger the phenomena? And then those person of interest, or others with similar sensibilities would 'catch on' the meme and start having MIB's strangenesses.

A bit like a psychological infection of ideas and/or patterns, forms, etc.

Like the way you think mate.

Have saved a few freaky case examples over from the ATS thread and reckon (if he's telling the truth) MUFON State Director Kent Senter's 'MIB' experience is well worth a post - the individuals involved do sound rather strange.




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There are also weird aspects to this subject like how these MIBs know a sighting has occurred despite the witnesses not telling anyone.

Good example being this daytime sighting at sea by three fishermen of a silent, hovering, spherical, white-ish brown object only a few feet above their heads - the UFO then departed at high speed.

Despite the fishermen not informing anyone of their experience when they returned to shore 'strangers were waiting to talk to them about what they had seen'.




• Flamborough Head, Yorkshire, 1966.

[Karl12]

Many others are now simply pissed off at MUFON and many others. Its a fooking clown show. ON PURPOSE

Would be surprised if MUFON isn't compromised mate (just like APRO was infiltrated back in the day) - hell the CIA were even boasting about the practise in their BS Robertson Panel whitewash.

As for spook UFO antics, did you ever catch this one? Apparently this chap had his UFO photograph requested for analysis and, upon delivering it to a specific address, goes back only to find all the furniture gone and no one there lol.

[Maxmars]

I was thinking about the 'dated' nature of the "MIB."

But maybe they just changed disguises...

now they come as foreigners and homeless people.

[Karl12]

I was thinking about the 'dated' nature of the "MIB."

But maybe they just changed disguises...

Whatever's going on some of the more freaky descriptions do appear consistent mate - quite a few global reports of 'Scandinavian' looking folks or even weird hairless 'clone' type aspects.

This doctor describes one as 'bald as an egg' with plastic skin 'like a doll'.

• “He wore a neatly tailored black suit, black shoes, black socks, a white shirt with black tie, and he wore a black derby. You don’t see derbies very often, and I thought to myself, ‘This guy looks just like an undertaker.. This character was as bald as an egg. He didn’t even have eyebrows or eyelashes. It looked like he had smooth, plastic skin like a doll."

Dr. Herbert Hopkins - Old Orchard Beach, Maine, September 11th, 1976.

Audio testimony - Track 3

Would say that full audio testimony is well worth a listen and the vid below covers the UFO incident the doctor was investigating at the time (before he burnt his notes and destroyed all audio recordings).

It's a really bizarre one involving a huge cigar shaped UFO, the Oz effect, time anomalies and a strange fog but there are parallels with other cases.

Physiological effects on the witnesses included nausea, swollen hands and feet, loose teeth and red rings around their necks.

[Karl12]

But maybe they just changed disguises...

Hey mate any idea why the old MIB thread was deleted from this website?

I linked it at the beginning of this post dealing with MIB reports involving Sasquatch but looks like it's gone for good.

Cheers.

[Karl12]

Regarding witness intimidation there's a pretty crazy story below from the UK involving farmer Murphy and a UFO hovering over his farmhouse.



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[Karl12]

Looks like video of the news footage is long gone but there's a transcript below from a Phoenix FOX 10 NEWS report by Jim Schnebelt involving US politician Frances Barwood.

Apparently MIB intercepted some footage of the Phoenix lights:



• Transcription:

FROM THE FOX-10 '10 files'...

: (on screen: stock "Phoenix Lights" footage, of lights suspended in sky)

: voiceover: Months after this (March 13) sighting there are many questions : regarding the strange lights over Phoenix. Is this a solid craft, or : merely lights in an empty sky? : What could be the conclusive evidence is now mysteriously missing. : Richard Curtis claims his home video is proof that this sighting was a : huge flying craft. And he claims his video shows a solid object in the sky : passing over his home.

 (on screen: cut to head shot of Curtis.)

: Curtis: I saw the bottom part (of the craft) as it went over Phoenix, : because the lights lit the bottom of it, and it partially blocked : out the clouds and the stars. : voiceover: Curtis called city councilwoman Frances Emma Barwood, wanting : to show her the footage. : (on screen: cut to head shot of Barwood)

: Barwood: He said he had it on two videotapes, and would I like them, so I : said, "Of course I would.", and could he give me copies of them. He said : he would. I told him how to get them to my office and to mark them : 'personal and confidential'. : (on screen: cheesy slo-mo video "re-enactment" of Men in Black walking : about)

: voiceover: But before Curtis could send copies to Barwood, he's paid a : visit by two mysterious men in black. : Curtis

voiced over MIB reenactments) They were dressed in black : suits, with black hats and sunglasses. They asked me if I had tapes for : coucilwoman Barwood, and I said "Yah, they're laying right here". They : said, "We've stopped by to pick them up." So I said, "Great!" and just : handed (the original tapes) to them.

: (on screen: cut to head shot of Barwood)

: Barwood: I didn't get them, and I have no idea who these two men were : since I have just females working in my office. Its absolutely puzzling to : me. : (on screen: cut to slo-mo MIB, one of them now holding videotapes...(!) )

: voiceover: Did the tapes ever exist, and if so were they proof of more : than "lights" in the sky? And who were these mysterious Men in Black who : allegedly took them?

: (as slo-mo MIB vid continues...)

: Curtis (voiced over): I think someone listened in on that phone call and : wanted those tapes.

: Barwood (voiced over): I can't explain it. Its just eerie. : Voiceover: The mystery continues. Jim Schnebelt, Fox-10 News. : _________ end story, cut to anchor _________ :

Link

[Karl12]

727Sky's thread on the Flatwoods Monster:


The Why Files Tunnels of Terror: The Cryptid Connection


Apparently men claiming to be from the 'Treasury Department' visited the home of an individual who found a really curious 'metal sample' - later on when the man went to work his house was broken into and the metal sample stolen.



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[Karl12]

Pierce Township UFO incident from 1991 where six firemen witnessed a long, blue, cylindrical/spherical shaped object hovering above the road whist answering a call for a routine car accident.

One of the firemen interviewed also mentioned how they were all summoned into the Fire Department office the next day and informed by three 'intimidating' plain clothed strangers that:

"this incident didn’t happen, you didn't see anything and don't talk about it"

The case was investigated by the late Kenny Young (RIP) and reporter Donnie Blessing who also made some interesting comments about how the Fire department records and files for this case went conveniently missing.

In the autumn of 1991 six firemen from the Pierce Township Fire Department were called out on what they initially believed to be a routine job. The emergency phone call came in as a car accident.

Louis Spears, one of the firemen, is interviewed on "UFO Report". He refused to talk about the UFO incident for several years.

Spears claims that when he arrived at the scene of what he thought was a car accident, he saw an unknown, cylindrical shaped object which hovered beside the pickup truck. Another fireman said that the unknown object was spherical shaped.

Spears recounts that he and the other firemen were summoned back to the Fire Department the next day. There they were allegedly debriefed by three plain clothed strangers. The strangers were intimidating and told the firemen that “this incident didn’t happen”.

Link

[Karl12]

A really curious one from Mexico:

What we have here is a case where almost all of the aspects of the UFO problem are involved.

This is a UFO observation report by a pilot.

This is a UFO close encounter.

This is a daylight UFO observation.

This is case were the reported UFOs are observed at close sight and are solid objet of obvious artificial construction.

This is a report of a near air collision between an aircraft and UFOs.

This is a report of UFO that have a behaviour which is suggesting intelligent control.

This is a case of physical effects on an aircraft.

This is a radar/visual case, where a visual sighting is confirmed by independent people detecting the presence of the objects on a detection device.

This is a case where the UFOs fly away in direction of Mount Popocatepetl, obviously a hotbed of UFO reports and allegedly some sort of hideout for extraterrestrial aircraft.

This is a case where a pilot reports his encounter publicly.

This is a case where the witness has been medically checked and interviewed. If Hynek could not speak to Los Santos Montiel, at least Jerome Clark and others could.

This is a case where the witness stood firm with his account over time.

This is a case where the witness reports that he has been repeatedly intimidated by unidentified people probably from a foreign country (UFO folklore call them "Men in Black").


Thread:

UFOs Surround Mexican Aircraft - Radar Confirmed.

Apparently the pilot was harassed twice - one time on his way to an interview with the late Dr. J. Allen Hynek.

Pilot states the MIBs looked 'Scandinavian'.

The men were "Scandinavian" in appearance, with very pale skin and wearing black suits. One of them walked up to Carlos's car door, standing with his hand on it, preventing Carlos from getting out. Speaking quickly in Spanish, with a strange "mechanical" tone, the man said "Look boy, if you value your life and your family's too, don't talk any more about this sighting of yours." Stunned speechless, Carlos turned his car around and drove home; he never made it to the television studio that day.