UFO MIB Gov Thread.

[Karl12]

Rather interesting account where police officers in patrol cars were pursuing a strange luminous object in Montana.

The object was locked on by a nearby radar tracking station and its distance, altitude and speed were transcribed onto radar scrolls.

Apparently the object then shot straight up and instantaneously stopped - the Chief Radar Officer stated "We dont have a clue what it is."

Two cars of security men wearing black coveralls then turned up carrying tubes and confiscated the radar scrolls.



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[BeTheGoddess]

Havnt read all  posts so I dont know if I have aready made this post, but there was an account here in AU from the 50's where the MiB's were driving what witnesses describer like a VW beetle, but larger and some even adding it had a dorsal fin.

Tatra never imported them for the market but some where sent here by the Czechoslovakian diplomatic core. 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tatra_603#Official_use

I first learned about this one from ATS, but asked it to an AI and they also knew of the account.

[Karl12]

there was an account here in AU from the 50's where the MiB's were driving what witnesses describer like a VW beetle, but larger and some even adding it had a dorsal fin.

Intriguing stuff mate and thanks for posting - hadn't heard of that one before.

Did come across this article citing some really strange cases involving MIBs and cars (also UFOs).



The Mysterious Men in Black and Their Equally Weird Cars



The MIB case below involves a limousine but is also rather odd as the farmer hadn't told anyone about his UFO sighting.

[Karl12]

That last video about the tobacco farmer also gets brought up in this piece about the harassment of UFO researcher Henry McKay.

Henry was a USAF engineer and the first Director of MUFON in Canada - he specialized in UFO landing sites and physical trace evidence.

In this audio cassette tape Henry talks about his mail being diverted, his telegram being diverted, his telephone being tapped, men watching his house from their car, being chased down the highway by an unknown vehicle, police showing up at his door to harass him from a city over 3 hours away, army showing up at his investigation sites (Henry specialized in landing sites and physical traces), and the monitoring of UFO investigators and researchers. Henry also mentions the Edwin Fuhr case (Regina, Saskatchewan) and that the police told Edwin not to say anything about his UFO sighting. He also mentions the Stephen Michalak case in Falcon Lake, Manitoba. He also talks about Ground Saucer Watch attempting to take the government to court regarding harassment for investigating UFOs. He also talks about his long fight with the government to get the Joe Borda files from the government (over 10 years Henry tried) in Brantford when a UFO landed in a tobacco field.

Link

[Karl12]

The Wytheville UFO Flap, Virginia - 1987.


News reporter Danny Gordon received countless late night phone calls (some of them threatening); his house was broken into; bogus reporters visited his home and his UFO negatives from the photographs he took disappeared.

• "What I'm telling you is they will try to hit you if they think it's possible for their purposes to keep you from further investigating this thing and most likely it will be done by a skin contact chemical.. in case something comes at the door knob of your car or on the steering wheel.."

Link: 1 / 2 / E-Book

[Karl12]

Wanaque Resevoir UFO MIBs (as alluded to by Colonel George P. Freeman) - intimidation/ do not discuss:

Mayor Wolfe, who would characterize the whole thing by saying that “the phenomena was terribly strange.”

Officer George Dyckman: “I’ve never seen anything like it in my life.”

Reservoir employee Fred Steines stated: “A bolt of light shot down from it as if attracted to the water, like a beam emitted from a portal.”

Councilman Warren Hagstrom: “We got goose bumps all over when we saw where the hole was.”

Patrolman Joe Cisco (recorded on police radio): “Something landed in front of the dam. Something’s burning a hole in the ice! Something with a bright light on it, going up and down!”

Strange men:

This author has learned that unknown men posing as military officials descended upon Wanaque in the period after the sighting to intimidate and dissuade talk about the UFO. And the source for this is the U.S. Pentagon itself! Found buried in the defunct civilian UFO research organization’s publication APRO Bulletin (Jan-Feb, 1967) is a detailing of these “MIB” visits.

“Men dressed in uniforms or bearing credentials from government agencies have been silencing witnesses to the UFO at Wanaque. According to Pentagon spokesman Colonel George P. Freeman, ‘These men are not connected to the Air Force in any way.’ He cited a recent case in which the police officers and other witnesses at sightings in Wanaque, NJ and told them they had seen nothing and should not discuss the incident. Whoever he was, he wasn’t’ from the Air Force,’ Freeman stated.”

Link

[Karl12]

Researcher Robert Fleischer describes a close range pilot UFO encounter from Germany on August 13th, 1976 where a yellow, oval shaped object flew just off the left wing of a Piper Arrow aircraft.

Apparently the pilot's magnetic compass was spinning wildly and Hanover Airport also confirmed the UFO on radar - two F4 Phantom jets were sent up to investigate and the object departed at high speed (compass went back to normal).

Upon landing a military van without licence plates pulled up to the plane and five men with suits got out - they wouldn't identify who they worked for but detained and interrogated the pilot for over three hours in an underground room on airport property.

After the questioning they tried to make him sign a document stating that he would never disclose details of his UFO sighting to the public, the pilot refused and they then threatened to suspend his pilot's licence.




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[Karl12]

Apologies for posting all these reports but there's a really odd 'witness intimidation' case being described in the vid below.

Don't know how the men knew the UFO witness would be visiting that specific restaurant at that specific time but apparently they got quite nasty.



• Virginia State MUFON Director Susan Swiatek.

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As Susan Swiatek states in the presentation above there are certain parallels with the Virginia case and this one involving Shirley Greenfield who witnessed a UFO (and MIB) in Bolton, England on January 23rd, 1976.

At 7:00 PM on the following evening, two men arrived at the Greenfield home and demanded "to interrogate" the girl. Both men appeared about 40 and wore crisp black suits and denied being either UFOlogists or journalists. The father initially refused to let them in. One man, tall and fair, almost blond, did all the talking and sternly responded with, "If you do not let us in now, we will come back later and make Shirley speak to us."

Neither man used names. Both had an air of authority and conducted themselves as if they had every right to do and say whatever they chose. The silent partner sat on a chair and held a square black box with no visible moving parts. It was said to be a high-tech recording device. Although this intense grilling session lasted three hours, at no time was any recording tape changed.

The tall one was rude to the point of aggression.

This visit ended with a threat to be silent.

"You must not talk about this matter. It is in your interests not to do so. Nobody will believe you, in any case. In particular, you must not talk to UFO investigators."

The pair left in a large black car.



Source:

Full Account: Page 8 (The Long Walk Home)

Jenny Randles The Truth Behind Men In Black

[Karl12]

2008 Stephenville UFO case - Ricky Sorrell's close range testimony and summary of harrassment.

(links removed so posting articles in full)

Written transcript of Ricky Sorrells UFO description on Larry King:


"I started looking at it. There were no bolts, no rivets, no welded seams, it was smooth, it was like a barn gray. It had cones protruding, going up into it, bigger at the bottom, going up to smaller at the top. It took off like this [shows motion with his hand]. It remained flat and took off at a 45 degree angle."

"It took off so fast that if I blinked I would have thought it vanished but I had my eyes on it, and I know it took off flat at a 45 degree angle."


Summary of harassment:

He began to have military planes flying over his land and helicopters in a grid pattern, which frightened his livestock.


He has also had many strange phone calls


Sorrells has also had late night visitors on his property, sneaking around his house in more attempts to scare him.


A man showed up at his doorstep at 1:00 AM in the morning.


He claims that he was told by a Lt. Colonel to keep his mouth shut about what he saw. The Lt. Colonel wanted to meet with him and had a heated discussion over the phone when Sorrells declined. Sorrells asked the colonel to quit flying his helicopters over his airspace, the colonel arrogantly replied it was his airspace. The colonel then told Sorrells that he would quit flying the helicopters if he stopped talking.


Writer Angelina Joiner, formerly of the Empire Tribune speculates he was singled out due to the vivid detail of his sighting.

Writer Billy Booth, About.com speculates some group within our government, possibly working outside the auspices of the President, is taking care of business. And their business is the controlling of information.

Apparently Stephenville UFO witness Steve Allen also received harassment in the form of strange phone calls





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Steve Allen - "I’ve had several different strange phone calls from different people. They did not identify themselves. They just said to be careful, that I was being watched, that what I do will be carefully scrutinized and I could be in danger."


Linda Howe - DID ANYONE STATE WHAT THE DANGER WOULD BE?


Steve Allen - "No, they never did. They can threaten me all they want. What are they going to do? Shoot me? I saw what I saw and I’m going forward with what I saw, come hell or high water.”

[Waterglass]

I was thinking about the 'dated' nature of the "MIB."

But maybe they just changed disguises...

now they come as foreigners and homeless people.

The world is full of weird and all continues as a mystery. So if you believe that Satanists exist then you should also belive that this group exists. I found them when I was researching our 1st UFO sighting on May 4, 2018 in South Carolina. I filed on report on NUFORC. 

I found a web page titled Ashtar Command and for the hell of it I wrote to the Administrator; Dieter asking whether he knows what we saw as UFO's. He wrote an email back which I still have stating that the pulsating flashing five color UFO's that we saw are  part of their Ashtar Command Light Ships. OK so a whack or somethinhg else? Remember that Satanists do exist. So keep an open mind. 

Here in 2025 I have seen these same color UFOs last September 2025. Other sightings with specific graphics and detail of the colors were by Michael Lee Hill over Lake Erie near Cleveland, a witness in Sri Lanka another in England, several over the USA and many others. The UFO "expert" creeps wont address my questions as to what they are. I offer my home to have thier cameras placed on my back deck. FREE of CHARGE. NADA. So are they USA secret aircraft? I DONT THINK SO. They love to fly over the Savannah Ruver Nuclear Reservation. Luis Elizondo testified before Congress that UFOs are flying over SAvannah. 

Its your call.